How do you train for your no rules street fights? I'm guessing you still have rules in your training, otherwise you would all be injured or dead.Originally Posted by TaiChiBob
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How do you train for your no rules street fights? I'm guessing you still have rules in your training, otherwise you would all be injured or dead.
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"How do you train for your no rules street fights? I'm guessing you still have rules in your training, otherwise you would all be injured or dead."
LOL.
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Last edited by mantiskilla; 04-22-2011 at 06:05 AM.
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Sounds good to me too. If not maybe we can get an informal group of camping kung fu nuts together and set up our own retreat. Or we could do like the rainbow people and start our own gatherings around the country.
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That is not a bad idea. I am actually waiting for our group to grow some students, so I can start a annual camping trip to Starved Rock every year.
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Because it is hard to kick someone there when they are using open guard and kicking back at you... try it sometime.
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Greetings..
Absolutely, no rules would be a bit irresponsible.. the point of the excerpt, which i may have not made clear enough, is that results in a controlled environment will favor the home-team (rules).. results in the street, where it actually matters, will differ.. if someone trains to dominate a sport venue, no problem.. but, i think there is good wisdom in training for street encounters.. being aware of multiple opponents, conditions on the ground, furniture and such odds and ends that might be used as weapons, etc... the mount leaves both opponents vulnerable from the other's buddies.. ground conditions, like in a bar, are sometimes too unsanitary for mixing with blood.. i have actually seen a guy make the mount and get a boot in the back of his head from his opponent's buddy.."How do you train for your no rules street fights? I'm guessing you still have rules in your training, otherwise you would all be injured or dead."
Too many people (MMA) think that the ground game is superior.. i think it is just another tool to be used in measured proportion to the situation. Street situations have many variables which indicate the wisdom of stand-up combat, too much reliance on a ground game might compromise a street encounter. While i have trained for the likelihood that i could end up on the ground, i prefer the stand-up game.. my ground game is weaker than my stand-up and it is focused on getting back on my feet (unless the opponent just screws up and offers me the finishing move)..
MMA is a great tool in the Martial Artists arsenal, especially if it's usefulness is clearly understood..
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Ditto.
Especially if he plans on stopping his normal seminars (I seem to remember his website saying something to that effect). I've got a couple of the guy's books, and would love to train with him. But ain't no way I'm gonna pack up for 10 years to do it.
Besides, after a few years of training, he's gonna have to start teaching them how to teach. And he's gonna need more students to do that. Otherwise, they're going to be very well trained guys with startup cash for a school and no idea how to relate to the variety of people that they'll come across.
Plus, more money for Dr. Yang. Of course he's trying to make money with this (Who in their right mind wouldn't if they could?). And if he's plays half a good a game as he talks, I don't mind shelling out some cash.
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a couple of thoughts, not really directed at anyone:
1.kung fu IS (or should be) MMA. In that it should produce a fighter that has multiple skills at different ranges. at least that is the way my sifu teaches me and he is 'old school' from HK (he also loves to watch UFC, lol).
2. if you can take care of yourself in a ring with knees, legs, fists, elbows coming at you from someone wanting to hurt you, then i think you'll be just fine in the 'street' (whatever that term means...never really figured it out). its the aggression AND usage factor that most kung fu is lacking in practice. if you dont use the right tools in any situation you may have a problem, but if you practice multiple skills (MMA/Kung fu) and you practice with full aggression...you should learn how and when to use those tools.
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Last edited by mantiskilla; 04-22-2011 at 06:05 AM.
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Because it is hard to kick someone there when they are using open guard and kicking back at you... try it sometime.
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Oh really? How about you lay down on your back, spread your legs, and then try and stop me Pal...
Really KF, that has got to be the dumbest thing you have ever said.......
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The real reason, as you know RD, is that the rules don't allow crotch stomps.Because it is hard to kick someone there when they are using open guard and kicking back at you... try it sometime.
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Oh really? How about you lay down on your back, spread your legs, and then try and stop me Pal...
Really KF, that has got to be the dumbest thing you have ever said.......
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Greetings..
Yeah, that's what i thought, too.. but, if it's a good MMA fighter, you will be unpleasantly surprised.. Yao Sing knows Troy P... and, you are much more likely to end up on your butt than "stomping crotch" with Troy.. A good MMA fighter on his back is still quite dangerous, deceptively so..Really KF, that has got to be the dumbest thing you have ever said..
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Because it is hard to kick someone there when they are using open guard and kicking back at you... try it sometime.
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Oh really? How about you lay down on your back, spread your legs, and then try and stop me Pal...
Really KF, that has got to be the dumbest thing you have ever said.......
Actually if anything the guy standing is more vunerable to a groin kick than the other guy since he can only use one leg at a time (as he needs at least one leg to stand on) whereas the guy on his back is free to use both his legs and does not have to worry about maintaining his balance. Per KF, try it sometime.
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So, then kick him like a football......
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Considering the fact that I have been using this for years, I'd be more than willing to do this.
I'll bet I can blow out your knee before your can manage a damaging groin shot.
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The top guy is actually not very vulnerable to groin shots. His knees are the areas that are open. The top guy is more apt to get his knees blown out than he is to land groin shots.
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