emphasis: Shuai, Na, Ti, Da

[MightyB]

What do you focus on?

Personally I'm getting more focused on shuai and na. The reason is that it's what I think is relevant in society today.

IMO, why traditional arts get a bad name is that they focused on Ti and Da in a time when you actually could focus on Ti and Da. What I mean is that there is truth to the too deadly argument. In order to demonstrate Ti and Da as a self defense skill as taught in TCMA, you'd have to allow for temple, throat, eye and groin strikes at the very least. That can't be done in today's society - so, you end up trying to use sportive striking techniques which aren't really that efficient for ending a fight quickly.

[YouKnowWho]

There is always a lucky punch, there will never be a lucky throw. Your throwing skill will go with your into your old age and you can always depend on it.

[SPJ]

yes in a fight

we always want a direct and quick response.

and end fight fast with a few moves.

punch and kicks are direct and fast approaches.

na and shuai need more requirements or elements to work.

there are many counters, too.

na is usually transcient due to counters

throws may be countered in many ways, too.

I remember that there was a Taiwan's san shou champion. When he got old but still needed to defend his title.

He opted for punch to KO. He did not have the endurance anymore to last for too long in rounds.

He needed to punch and end fight ASAP.

[RonBlair]

Honestly, I believe tcma would be better off spending most of their time developing these skills instead of doing the things that cause mma people make fun of them.

[YouKnowWho]

Honestly, I believe tcma would be better off spending most of their time developing these skills instead of doing the things that cause mma people make fun of them.

Agree! There are about

- 10 different punches,
- 20 different kicks,
- 50 different locks,
- 400 different throws.

If we just train those moves, we don't have to worry about "style" at all.

[RonBlair]

Agree! There are about

- 10 different punches,
- 20 different kicks,
- 50 different locks,
- 400 different throws.

If we just train those moves, we don't have to worry about "style" at all.

And not just train them in the air as forms but on real people.

[YouKnowWho]

And not just train them in the air as forms but on real people.

If you

- have partner then train with partner.
- don't have partner then train with equipments (heavy bag, single head, weight pulley, ...) or solo (solo training is just partner training without partner).

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7958/canebundle.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5...gleheadbow.jpg

http://img853.imageshack.us/img853/9...ghtpulley4.jpg

[TenTigers]

throwing involves falling, and everyone should know how to fall safely.
It's one thing to focus just on your striking skills for whatever reasons you may have, but to neglect falling only means that when you do fall, or get taken down, you will not be able to recover-hence, your striking skills will be made useless.

[YouKnowWho]

The nice thing about this approach is you don't have to say that "hook punch" is not in my style. You can learn "hook punch" from any system. You can even learn "flying knee" from MT if you want to.

[RonBlair]

throwing involves falling, and everyone should know how to fall safely.
It's one thing to focus just on your striking skills for whatever reasons you may have, but to neglect falling only means that when you do fall, or get taken down, you will not be able to recover-hence, your striking skills will be made useless.

Learning to fall is implied when learning Shuai skills is it not? It doesn't need to be mentioned specifically.

[wenshu]

If you

- have partner then train with partner.
- don't have partner then train with equipments (heavy bag, single head, weight pulley, ...) or solo (solo training is just partner training without partner).

http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/7958/canebundle.jpg

http://img685.imageshack.us/img685/5...gleheadbow.jpg

YKW;

What are some other SJ pulley drills like this one?

[TenTigers]

Learning to fall is implied when learning Shuai skills is it not? It doesn't need to be mentioned specifically.

depends whom you're talking to...

[YouKnowWho]

YKW;

What are some other SJ pulley drills like this one?

Whenever that I go to gym, I always work on weight pulley 300 reps (55 lb both hands, 45 lb single hand).

http://img16.imageshack.us/img16/5606/weightpulley2.jpg

http://img827.imageshack.us/img827/8...ghtpulley3.jpg

http://img694.imageshack.us/img694/5...ghtpulley1.jpg

http://img197.imageshack.us/img197/4936/pulley2.jpg

[RonBlair]

depends whom you're talking to...

Point me to a wrestling school that doesnt teach falling. You have to teach falling if you're doing actual throws on people. Otherwise they'd all get effed up. In judo all you do is get thrown around your first day to practice rolling, break falls, and to condition your mind/body to the sudden impact.

[MightyB]

In judo all you do is get thrown around your first day to practice rolling, break falls, and to condition your mind/body to the sudden impact.

Kinda'sorta - First day when I instruct is to have them do a ton of solo breakfalls. Broken up with bits of fun like a basic tai sabaki drill, something I call Nose to the Toes, and a first feeler for Kazushi. We don't throw 'em until they can demonstrate that they can do a safe breakfall. I'll also try to show a basic pin and escape drill and have them get into Newaza Randori ASAP - often on day 1. Reason being - if they don't have fun and don't get a good workout, they won't come back.