Originally Posted by
Mr Punch
Yeah, that's a fair point. But, it's still a stick. If you think a stick of kind used in wing chun could be a useful weapon except against maybe people on horseback, in the army or on boats I think maybe it's you who's developmentally challenged!
Well, thank god I don't believe that!
The M-16 is a more effective personal firearm than the M-60 or a shoulder slung vulcanized gatling gun, but the latter sure looks good in the movies.
My point is that it's not beyond reason that a person could be skilled enough with a long pole to 'beat' someone with a jo, given the body size, ability, and experience (IOW, it's not just the choice of weapon, but the person as well, hence person vs. person not style vs. style.
In the case of weapons, strategy and tactics play a larger role than in empty hands, therefore it leads to being more about the person than the art.
I know long heavy poles were used, but I don't think they were ever regular staples of single hand-to-hand combat.
But don't think stick vs stick is a common training practice in WC. So a style which regularly practices it will have the advantage, no?
Cool.
Of course, that's why I train in Escrima.
There are some pole exercises in some WC branches, mostly constructed drills though.
And how about these people training stick to stick jo practice?
Me thinks they are almost as rare as a WC school that actually 'spars' with poles.
(as none of the Aikido/jitsu or Karate classes I've ever witnessed or attended did)
So, Punch, I'm not disagreeing with you, I just have a different way of looking at it.
Last edited by AmanuJRY; 08-20-2006 at 05:40 AM.
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