I just learned changhuxinyimen
And I just started qixing. Qixing is really different. It's almost an anomaly. The stancework is unique, the use of the fengshou, and the fact that it's a cross pattern instead of a straight line. I just have the first half of it and am only one week in, so it's a pretty superficial understanding. I don't see the relationship between the two forms yet.
I do see the relationship between dahong and xiaohong. One totally jams the other during certain sequences. I often find that if I work one significantly more, the other collapses into it.
I finished qixing...more or less.
Well, I have the form anyway. I don't have the concluding section of changhuxingyimen yet, but I'm only a few moves away. I've been chipping on that one for several months now. Changhuxingyimen is quite long for traditional Songshan. Qixing is quite short. It was transmitted in a week. Of course, learning the move sequence and getting it are two vastly different things and the feel of qixing is pretty different; it's very challenging. I'm still grappling with applications and flow (but I'm still grappling with that in all my Songshan forms - they're so dense).
I've been pondering the changhuxingyimen and qixing as a muzi. I did notice that my changhuxingyimen jibengong lines were all messed up last night, which is typical for me for muzi forms. I've been working dahong a lot lately, and my xiaohong is totally messed up now.
This thread is super timely for me personally.
I finished changhuxinyimen...more or less.
I totally see the relationship now. I'm glad you mentioned the muzi connection, LFJ. I probably would not have seen that right away.
My current Shaolin master, Yanfei, confirmed the connection and broke it down a little when I asked him. He's not always forthcoming about details like that and probably would not have offered that tidbit unless pressed, so I'm really glad I asked. Many in our class are beginners.
This thread needs some lyrics. We've done the lyrics for BSL. For Songshan Shaolin, we've posted lyrics for xiaohongquan and Sal posted some old lyrics. Maybe when I get a break I'll post some (or if any of you get ambitious, please have at it!) I think I have few lyric sets for these two forms. Of course, there's always Taguo's Shaolin Gong Fu – A Course in Traditional Forms.
thats a neat concept for the fengshou. thanks for that!
i have the lyrics for qixingquan saved on another computer. i can post that when i get the chance. i'll probably have to dig for the changhuxinyimenquan lyrics though.
also, i'm sure if our versions differ, the lyrics will likely differ slightly as well. for example we already have the fengshou and qianshou names for the hand-form that differ.
but what i'm waiting for is of course sal or someone to come on here with some history and explanation of why these sets so strangely differ from other shaolin material and any further insight into the style.