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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChunABQ View Post
    So there's the one Goju form that uses a static stance and slow breathing (you know which I mean?). Is it a similar idea to Hung Ga Iron Wire and Wing Chun Siu Nim Tao?
    Sanchin and it is a very basic "breathing form" compared to the Tid Sin Kuen.
    There are many versions of sanchin but they, typically, can be divided into 2:
    Pre-Miyagi and Post Miyagi.
    The Higaonna Sanchin was longer, had two turns, did not move backwards and was, in some versions, less dynamic tension like.
    Of course some versions of the Higaonna one are just like the Miyagi one ( deep breathing, tension, etc) and have the two turns.
    It seems the depending on WHEN one learned Sanchin from Miyagi or perhaps why Miyagi was teaching sanchin at the time, one got a certain sanchin.
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    I really like the dynamic tension aspect of that form. I'm pretty limited in my exposure to Japanese/Okinawan martial arts as a whole, but that kind of static stance + breathing + dynamic tension seems kind of rare in arts with those origins.

    Also, they have a kind of sticky hands practice too, right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WingChunABQ View Post
    I really like the dynamic tension aspect of that form. I'm pretty limited in my exposure to Japanese/Okinawan martial arts as a whole, but that kind of static stance + breathing + dynamic tension seems kind of rare in arts with those origins.

    Also, they have a kind of sticky hands practice too, right?
    Yes and the "iron arm training".
    Considering Goju's southern kung fu origins ( either white crane or 5 ancestors or perhaps even both), it makes sense it would have them, albeit in a very "okinawan way".
    Sanchin ( and it's TCMA parents) is a very individualistic form and, depending on what one is working on, can be done in many different ways.
    Some teachers were exposed to when their teacher was doing it in certain way while others got it when the same teacher was doing it different ( not better or worse just different) and that is how they passed it along.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin View Post
    Yes and the "iron arm training".
    Considering Goju's southern kung fu origins ( either white crane or 5 ancestors or perhaps even both), it makes sense it would have them, albeit in a very "okinawan way".
    Sanchin ( and it's TCMA parents) is a very individualistic form and, depending on what one is working on, can be done in many different ways.
    Some teachers were exposed to when their teacher was doing it in certain way while others got it when the same teacher was doing it different ( not better or worse just different) and that is how they passed it along.
    It's funny you should say that ("individualistic"). I happen to feel that each WC form should be done this way, working on specific aspects of development and not doing them the same way each time. Some people treat them as holy writ.

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    A comparison of the Sanchin kata found in different styles

    Here's a video of several karate masters from different styles (as well as a kung fu master) all doing their own version of the Sanchin kata side by side.

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    Wow liked that vid. Like a cross section of differences and similarities through a bunch of styles. Interesting. I have a form called vital breathing/snake tension that shares a lot of similarities with sanchin.
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    Great video. It's interesting to see the common core to the forms, even though each sensei has his own emphasis.

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