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Old 06-24-2012, 01:18 PM
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how long does one needs to be able to differentiate between a line type of power generation and a body type of power generation? may be 10 mins to learn from those who know it? why is it has to take decades to go around hung gar, CLF, taiji, White Crane....etc and at the end still cannot clearly know what is a body type of power generation and a line type. and get stuck?
Probably because so many people in wing chun talk such eastern mumbo jumbo that the simple truths of a simple martial art like wing chun are eclipsed by mystical BS masquerading as deep knowledge.
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some has asked me about

the White Crane inch jin joint power, at the folliwng 7.40 and 11.51 explain what is it , by the White Crane expert , according to ancient definition of bounce tremble short Jin or 彈抖寸勁

Hope that some one translate these above.

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The SLT transform drill in the YKT is a gentle way to lead one into these type of bounce tremble short jin power generation while keeping the whole body in a loose way which accord to the snake engine of emei 12 zhuang.

This way, via this drill one can experience the most basic form of bounce tremble power generation in a direct way, To know what it is without guessing. And then one can identify this within the slt set and develop it.
Nice video, especially the part with the explanation of White Crane Jing.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:38 AM
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One day, ONE DAY I SAY !! we will see a practical application of these things !
ONE DAY !!!
We will see someone advocate these methods USING them VS someone fighting them !!
ONE DAY !!!

Just obviously not yet !

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you will never be ready to spar, wing chun subhuman. your muscle have atrophied to size of a paraplegic from years of sil nim tao.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:39 AM
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Nice video, especially the part with the explanation of White Crane Jing.
WCK doesn't comes out from thin air.
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:42 AM
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One day, ONE DAY I SAY !! we will see a practical application of these things !
ONE DAY !!!
We will see someone advocate these methods USING them VS someone fighting them !!
ONE DAY !!!

Just obviously not yet !


Studying WCK is the same with learning these sister art of WCK. And that is not studying modern sport or mma.

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Old 06-25-2012, 07:48 AM
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Studying WCK is the same with learning these sister art of WCK. And that is not studying modern sport or mma.

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And how one earth would you KNOW that unless YOU have studied modern sport and MMA to compare it with ?
And what the heck does modern sport and MMA have to do with my post?
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Old 06-25-2012, 07:59 AM
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And how one earth would you KNOW that unless YOU have studied modern sport and MMA to compare it with ?
And what the heck does modern sport and MMA have to do with my post?
And heck does your post have to do with YKT.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:04 AM
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And heck does your post have to do with YKT.
It has to do with the VIDEO YOU posted that was suppose to be an example of something that is to be DONE WHILE fighting, that was NOT BEING done WHILE fighting.
What's next?
A video of a guy sitting in a stop car with the engine off as an example of correct driving skills?
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:29 AM
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Nice video, especially the part with the explanation of White Crane Jing.
My Chinese is a little rusty, where is the English version.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:41 AM
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It has to do with the VIDEO YOU posted that was suppose to be an example of something that is to be DONE WHILE fighting, that was NOT BEING done WHILE fighting.
What's next?
A video of a guy sitting in a stop car with the engine off as an example of correct driving skills?
It is my video, you like it take it , you don't like leave it. That simple.
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Old 06-25-2012, 08:47 AM
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It is my video, you like it take it , you don't like leave it. That simple.
Is there a particular reason you never show practical applications of all your theories?
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Old 06-25-2012, 09:13 AM
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Is there a particular reason you never show practical applications of all your theories?
Yes there is. Wish I had video to show you what they are.
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Old 06-25-2012, 11:41 AM
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One of the reason I brought up the ancient tcma teaching is that.

Tcma is similar to a drug. Drug needs lots of testing before it is released to public.
The same thing, tcma internal development goes through a long term of evolution.

For me, all internal art I practice myself for body mind development required a long tem history of related track records and proven practice. Otherwise, no one will know what will it do to ones first four layers of YKT in long term.

The principle of the YKT , loose physical, quite mind, and natural in breathing and physical motion. Is a proven principle for thousands of years in the internal mind body development in china. Violating that in internal practice is trouble.


So, a set is like a drug, the design of the set is a recipe . Examine the drills in YKT. All are balance and simple drill with known track records and long history.

Statistically research has been done in 1950 by zhou cien cuan a top internal expert in qi medirians and martial arts, and he found that the taiji sets of some family have been evolved towards fighting applications and violate the flow of medirians, that cause health issues for long term practiced. He advised those people to simplified their sets to accord to the natural flow in order to avoid health issues. This account is well know in the Chinese internal art inner circle. So, be really careful to practice sets. If it is violating loose, quite, and nature. Having all kind of twisting here forcing there and you feel tension in the chest, head, or neck due to the bow down or rapid twist ...ect. Stop practice that immediately and don't ever practice it. A good set or drill is something you feel very at ease while you practice and after practice.

A set is like a drug. The sequence of the set on handling the five layers is a recipe. That is Chinese medicine in movement form. One doesn't take drug, one doesn't get accupuncture needle. But one influnce ones body via breathing, blood flow, oxigen intake, qi flow, and nerves system. If one practice it 1 hour for three times a day, those are the dose of the drug. that is going change the body mind. That is the based of tcma qigong therapy. So, do not take my words lightly if you do internal art.

Those who used Chinese qigong for health needs to know the first four and replace the fifth layer with herb and diet. That is the basic of Chinese medicine .

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Old 06-25-2012, 11:46 AM
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How do you KNOW that Hendrick?
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