Banned
I don't make any claims of expertise. But I do know from experience that the human body is very durable, tough, not easily "disabled. Your description of the eye, for instance, is utter nonsense. You might find a little research about the sclera, the TOUGH, white, outer part of the eye useful.Originally Posted by TenTigers
Moreover, I also know what people talk about poking the eyes, kicking the groin, and/or hitting the spine or throat as "disabling strikes" live in fantasy land.
Cha Wang
I think in the final analysis, anybody with any experience knows that training is better than not training. Lots of mouth boxers miss this subtlety, as we all know. No dehydrated Kung Fu out there for instant reconstitution.
And, if you are not training in a way that personally motivates you , and keeps you firing, you will lose the battle in the long run. IF it is to be a lifetime pursuit, it has to be something that you love, that you can endure and that inspires you.
It changes too...
Gear is good, we've started adding more to our training, but its a rolling experiment right now...
Guangzhou Pak Mei Kung Fu School, Sydney Australia,
Sifu Leung, Yuk Seng
Established 1989, Glebe Australia
Glorified TCMAist
ok, I'm not going to go back and forth with you, but I will say this.
I don't claim to be a tough guy, just a guy. But I have been on the giving end as well as the recieving end of the above strikes,(except for giving the eye strike) and at least for me, they were disabling.
Eye strikes are excruciating-been there done that, had the lacerated cornia to prove it.
Base of the skull (back of the neck) strikes will drop you.
Groin kicks can buckle you over, put you to your knees, or on the floor in fetal position.
Sure, sometimes rage and/or adreneline can block out the pain momentarally.
I've dropped people with groin strikes, but I've also "snapped" after a particularly hard groin kick, only to crumble once I calmed down.(nice to know, at least)
I continued the match after the eye strike, but if there wasn't a ref, It would've ended right then and there for me.
I was sparring my teacher,(I was a 20 yr old studying kenpo) who cross-kicked me in the shin, grabbed me by the hair and landed a knifehand to the base of my skull that dropped me face down on the floor. I was barely concious.
I dropped a guy twice my size with a similar strike. (ridgehand)
I don't know what experience you have had with these strikes firsthand.
If you have been on the recieving end and it didn't faze you-more power to you.
I will continue to practice them.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Cha Wang
Eyes, throat, spine and throat, not disabling. Do tell...
Right now you sound like a major wanker...
Guangzhou Pak Mei Kung Fu School, Sydney Australia,
Sifu Leung, Yuk Seng
Established 1989, Glebe Australia
Banned
The wankers are those that believe IN disabling strikes.
Glorified TCMAist
Terrance, out of curiosity, where are the strikes targeted in Biu-Tze?
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Cha Wang
I can see you've never fought. Personally, I can disable a guy, dropped more guys than I can count.
Maybe you can use some training?
Guangzhou Pak Mei Kung Fu School, Sydney Australia,
Sifu Leung, Yuk Seng
Established 1989, Glebe Australia
Registered User
You press on your opponent's forehead to force his head to bend backward to expose his throat, you then use your palm edge to strike on his Adam apple. You should be able to drop your opponent.
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 11-08-2010 at 03:12 PM.
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
that's right he practices wing chun huh?Terrance, out of curiosity, where are the strikes targeted in Biu-Tze?
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
Banned
The Biu Jee is a form (set). There are no "targets". And the biu jee sao is not a finger strike as is sometimes misrepresented; the contact point is the forearm (not the fingers). If used to strike, a biu jee sao is a forearm strike (to the head, body, whatever).
Banned
Oh my Lord!
Banned
ROFLOL! Sure you have. And I have killed at least 39 ninja.
I've done quite a bit of training/sparring with fighters (MMA and MT). I had a detached retina from an accidental finger poke and didn't miss a beat in the sparring (I guess I must have an abnormally think "paper thin membrane covering my eye"!). The only time I was "disabled" by a strike was with a liver shot.
You people live in a fantasy world.
Registered User
There is something on this planet and that's called "faith".
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 11-08-2010 at 05:02 PM.
Itinerant practitioner
It also facilitates ridge hand and heel palm strikes when use to cut across the body. But yeah, failing that, the forearm follows.
small point striking with high accuracy is a gong all on it's own and can also be used in tandem with the technique of bil jee either thrusting or raking. with raking being most applicaable and thrusting requiring more accuracy and therefore more time and effort to get consistent with.
Glorified TCMAist
before you break your arm patting yourself on the back, I was referring to the skin of the eyelid, which is...paper thin, and even a strike to a closed eye is very painfull. To add, pressing the thumbs forcefully into a closed eye still causes a tremendous amount of pain. Have someone try it on you.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
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