The Promise

[jethro]

I wouldn't want to wear that helmet to a sword fight though. It'd either be so heavy you'd break your neck wearing it or so flimsy that it would be cleaved in twain by a plastic butter knife.

I will tell you what man, I really like movies like gladiator and gojoe where they don't focus so much on like sword techniques, but they go a lot more with style and power and flashy shot.

I know in hero I was not all that impressed with the martial arts, but it is still one of my top 20-30 movies of all time because it was the most beautiful movie ever. Costume wise it was very good but, this one shot of this movie looks WAYYYY better than that. So the movie sounds pretty stupid with the kung fu hustle scene and all, but I want to at leeast see it.



But if you think about it back in like medieval times, they would where armour somewhat similiar to that ALL the time. And wearing that after a couple years, their bodies actually became a lot bigger and are able to support all of that. Just think that back then, this guys neck would eventually become huge and he would probably be able to fight with it on.


Alright it is too early, I'm gonna put my sunglasses back on.

[GeneChing]

But if you think about it back in like medieval times, they would where armour somewhat similiar to that ALL the time. And wearing that after a couple years, their bodies actually became a lot bigger and are able to support all of that. Just think that back then, this guys neck would eventually become huge and he would probably be able to fight with it on.

Have you ever really looked at ancient armor? Sure, there was some some baroque stuff, but that was usually court armor, worn by fops after the rise of firearms. Who do you think designed armor back in the day, Lamarck?

[jethro]

Have you ever really looked at ancient armor? Sure, there was some some baroque stuff, but that was usually court armor, worn by fops after the rise of firearms. Who do you think designed armor back in the day, Lamarck?

Hey gene, i know that back in brittania(please don't get into my arthurian geekness) they were ALWAYS having wars and i know for sure that the kings princes. etc. ALWAYS had armour on and every day they would become stronger
and eventuually after many years of having wars and having to keep this stuff on all the time they became pretty big, i'm not saying they grew in inches, i would compare it more to barry bonds.

So I don't know if yer just tryign to be a you know what but i don't care if that costume is amde of paper mache, it works for me.

[SimonM]

Jethro Gene's point is that nobody would wear armour - like that - into battle. It's not designed to deflect a strike away from the head and in all likelihood would channel the strike towards the head. Plus it looks like it's made out of gold! Do you know how heavy a gold helmet that size would be? Not to mention that gold is about the worst material to construct armour out of because it's so bloody soft that a good sharp steel weapon would cleave right through it.

Now as for wearing armour all the time it's just not practical. I mean, chafing aside, it's difficult to do things like use the washroom when you are in a tin can. Finally in the middle ages, when armour was most useful, rules of ettiquete and protocol would probably prevent someone from wearing armour all of the time in most jurisdictions... Unless they were a king.

[jethro]

Jethro Gene's point is that nobody would wear armour - like that - into battle. It's not designed to deflect a strike away from the head and in all likelihood would channel the strike towards the head. Plus it looks like it's made out of gold! Do you know how heavy a gold helmet that size would be? Not to mention that gold is about the worst material to construct armour out of because it's so bloody soft that a good sharp steel weapon would cleave right through it.

Now as for wearing armour all the time it's just not practical. I mean, chafing aside, it's difficult to do things like use the washroom when you are in a tin can. Finally in the middle ages, when armour was most useful, rules of ettiquete and protocol would probably prevent someone from wearing armour all of the time in most jurisdictions... Unless they were a king.

You make a very good point, but let me live in my own world i have going on!!!!!!



But indeed kings could become big enough to wear arrmouoour like this,right?????
Beowulf-he he ha
I love my own fantasies

[GeneChing]

Check out our latest e-zine update - The Promise - Know What It Is and What It Is Not by Craig Reid

[jethro]

I can't say I was pleased with the 60+ budget on musa(I seem to be the only one). But it looks like they put the money to good use here.

[GeneChing]

You just like the spiky hats...

[gregdread]

For those not into Reggae, the title is from a song by dance hall artist Buju Banton (with the hook, "I wanna rule my destiny") and it came to my mind soon after reading Dr. C's article on The Promise. Because that song has a similar message to what director Chen conveys in The Promise. When asked about the Chinese title, Wu Ji ( "infinity"), Chen explains that, in this movie, he wanted to show how, "[e]very life can be faced with many possibilities or directions. So, in a sense, I'm indicating that life can have an infinite number of paths."

A great story with amazingly beautiful cinematography (minus cheap graphics). Definately the Chinese equavilant to Ran. But then I’ve only seen it on DVD, and wish I had seen it on the big screen first.

[GeneChing]

I wouldn't put it on the level of Ran at all. Maybe just for the pretty colors, but Ran was such serious epic and The Promise, while it had such aspirations, fell way short of that. I confess that Kurosawa is my favorite director of all time and there's no way I'd put Kaige on his level, not even for Farewell My Concubine (which is Kaige's best effort to date, IMO).

They keep fighting me I'm not giving up
May the realms of Zion fill my spiritual cup
Wisdom overstanding can never be too much
Give I protection Day and night

[SimonM]

Hey Gene I like the Rasta quote.

Source?

[GeneChing]

Check out our latest piece on The Promise's leading man - Hiroyuki Sanada: "Promises" for Peace through Film by Dr. Craig Reid. The 2nd to last pic just might put jethro in spiky hat ecstacy. Stand back everyone, it's liable to get messy.

SimonM: The quote is from Buju's Destiny - I was just following the lead of gregdread.

[jethro]

My work somehow blocks all pics on this site. But I am very intrigued

Hiroyuki sanada is in ths?????????????????????????

Gene, didn't you here I am a HUGE HUGE HUGE fan of ninja in the dragon's den. Did I mention I am a HUGE fan of, ok, I am going to try and catch my breath here, in, out, out, ueu m9-q

[GeneChing]

I guess your work thinks spiky hats are PORN. That's downright funny, and probably not too inaccurate in your case jethro

I wasn't hip to Sanada until Craig pointed him out. Then a lot fell into place. BTW, I recently saw Twilight Samurai and was very disappointed.

[@PLUGO]

BTW, I recently saw Twilight Samurai and was very disappointed.

Really? how curious... do we have a Thread on that film here?

Maybe it's time we did have one.