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Old 07-07-2005, 06:33 PM
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Beautiful Ladies wearing Han Fu

warning: if you say these are kimonos, i'll stick an arrow in your eye

educate yourself first with this site on the evolution of Chinese clothing
http://www.library.utoronto.ca/east/...my/ancient.htm

then enjoy pictures of beautiful women wearing them

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1101796496.jpg

http://photobucket.com/albums/v259/S...ent=simple.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...ape/967117.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...1098341065.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...g216477458.jpg
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Old 07-07-2005, 08:13 PM
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What lovely kimono...

How about Han bikini instead?
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Old 07-08-2005, 04:52 AM
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this is one weird thread

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Old 07-08-2005, 06:20 AM
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Great thread!
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Old 07-09-2005, 01:40 AM
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The first lady is really wearing a kimono. The others wear Chinese costumes.
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Old 07-09-2005, 08:41 AM
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The first lady is really wearing a kimono. The others wear Chinese costumes.
its not a kimono

its a Han era aristocrat Han Fu

the actress wearing it is Yang Tong Shu and its for the TV drama Han Wu Da Di (based on the life of Emperor Han Wu Di)

where the hell do you think kimonos come from? did you even read the first link (history of Chinese costumes)

kimono in Kanji is 吳服, Wu refers to the three kingdoms era Wu kingdom which the Yamato kingdom in Japan was in close contact with

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Old 07-09-2005, 10:08 AM
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the actress wearing it is Yang Tong Shu and its for the TV drama Han Wu Da Di (based on the life of Emperor Han Wu Di)
Saw Da Han Tianzi with Huang Xiaoming, haven't saw this one though.

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the hell do you think kimonos come from? did you even read the first link (history of Chinese costumes)
Read it, lousy Pinyin. It's ZhOU Dynasty, not ZhAO Dynasty.

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kimono in Kanji is 吳服, Wu refers to the three kingdoms era Wu kingdom which the Yamato kingdom in Japan was in close contact with
No sh!t? Being a Sinologist myself and having studied Chinese history at Peking University, I guess I don't need you to lecture me on the Chinese origins of the kimono.

During the Three Kingdoms Period, the Queen of the Yamato Kingdom sent envoys to the Kingdom of Wei. Emperor Cao Pi received the emissaries and gave them gifts in return, including precious swords. This was the first recorded contact between China and Japan in history. To say that the Yamato Kingdom was in close contact with the Kingdom of Wu is a gross simplification and a wild claim. There's no historical evidence whatsoever.

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its not a kimono

its a Han era aristocrat Han Fu
Sigh, the crew of Han Wu Da Di just took a Japanese heian style kimono, changed it a bit, and called it a Han era dress. You're not really thinking they used an ancient Han dynasty garment, are you?

Never mind...
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Laviathan: I'm no expert but I asked my girlfriend (Japanese) whether she was wearing Chinese or Japanese clothing and she said old Chinese and looked at me like I was nuts.

Do you have a chip on your shoulder about the Japanese and the fact that many of their cultural artefacts come from China, YangLiCheng?

Nice pics btw.
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my humble generalizations.


The Chinese made great contributions to Japanese culture. Nowdays, the Japanese are way more advanced in technology, fashion and creative achievements. Although its changing, if I see an Asian guy with a mickey mouse T-shirt, I can bet his knock off rolex that he's from the mainland. Chinese people learn about the Tang and Song dynasties and look down their noses at the Japanese. But its Japan that had the last laugh in Nanking. And then laughed their way to the first world, while China gunned down her cultural heritage in the name of communism.

Once the power shift happens and China takes over, they will probably put the Japanese on Native reserves and view Japanese culture with quaint interest. In the mean time, there's a chip on the collective Chinese shoulder.


my humble and uneducated opinion on Chinese inferiority complex.
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Old 07-12-2005, 12:19 AM
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my humble generalizations.


The Chinese made great contributions to Japanese culture. Nowdays, the Japanese are way more advanced in technology, fashion and creative achievements. Although its changing, if I see an Asian guy with a mickey mouse T-shirt, I can bet his knock off rolex that he's from the mainland. Chinese people learn about the Tang and Song dynasties and look down their noses at the Japanese. But its Japan that had the last laugh in Nanking. And then laughed their way to the first world, while China gunned down her cultural heritage in the name of communism.

Once the power shift happens and China takes over, they will probably put the Japanese on Native reserves and view Japanese culture with quaint interest. In the mean time, there's a chip on the collective Chinese shoulder.


my humble and uneducated opinion on Chinese inferiority complex.

turning a kimono thread into a political debate reminds me of the fat annoying kids in kindergarden arguing over candy. just saying
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Old 07-12-2005, 06:14 AM
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Kristoffer, long time no see!
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turning a kimono thread into a political debate reminds me of the fat annoying kids in kindergarden arguing over candy. just saying
But that's just it mate: as YangLiCheng has pointed out very pointedly - they aren't kimono! So you're about to get in trouble there!

In fact, this is the third thread he's started with a very firm statement that he is talking about Chinese culture, NOT Japanese, which is fair enough, but I ain't gonna walk on eggshells!

That's why I want to know the reasons for his attitude. Not debating anything, just asking him, friendly like!
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Old 07-12-2005, 07:50 AM
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Hey Mat, what's up? I'm just trying to survive the heat over here.

Actually I was gonna write Han Fu but it didn't have the same stingy feeling to it.
I understand what your getting at having read YangLiChengs other threads.. I liked his chinese archery thread though, I used to hunt trees as a kid.
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Yeah, I like his threads... I just wondered where he's coming from.

Where's "over here?"!

It's pretty da.mn horrible over here too!
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you are pretentious and stupid. Do you think you are a real expert? Are you so smart that when someone tries to tell you something you are offended. You are pretentious and stupid.
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