History of 1600's

[Hendrik]

History time again,



The

http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=34884

Goes through alots of background on what happen in 1600's. There we learn about there was an organization Chin San Tai. (see the note below),



Lately, I have read from a Taiwan magazine interview on the leader of Chin San Tai, that this particular anti-qing organization was started by General Zhen Chen-Kung himself. It is an organization prior to the Tien Tee Hui. and this Chin San Tai organization still exist in Taiwan today. and, General Zhen Cheng-Kung was a native of Fujian Chuan Ciu.


So,
with the alta (?) of White CRane Spiritual grandmaster, Lady Ser Fu ( Fang Chi-Niang) within Chin San Tai. (as was present in the above post) It is very very likely that White Crane from Fujian is playing a Big Part in the anti-qing movement which related to General Zhen Cheng-Kung and Chen Yong-Hua / Chen Chiin-Nan.

But not the art of shao lin or Dong Chan ( also presented in the above web link). For Dong Chan fleet to Taiwan, offer his advise to the leader there. The leader didnt listern to his idea. He fell into depression and passed away in a place name Tan Sui.



With this, we can see a step further that it is not very likely Shao Lin at that time created WCK. For the organization started by General Zhen Cheng-Kung himself pray to White Crane ancestors of Fujian ---- White CRane Spiritual grandmaster and Lady Ser Fu.



Furthermore,

With the existing of Lee Man Mau who lead the Hung Gam movements (turn out to be a white Crane of Fujian practitioner too) with the Opera actors; And the exist of Dien Chun Dang in Shang hai today and the connection between the Small Knive society and Canton in 1850's.

http://www.wingchunkuen.com/why/arti..._shanghai.html




It is very very likely that Wing Chun Kuen is the art of the Opera actors created in late 1700 to early 1800 era.

The history of Wing Chun Kuen is very likely to be closed now for in the written history and informations from different fields from China and Taiwan converges and there is no mystery.

And, One of the main ingredient of WCK is --- White Crane of Fujian.

Ng Mui, inch jing join power, shock power...... Tan Sau... Popai.... we are very likely knows where the concepts comes from. Yes, There exist a White Crane master as the ancestor of WCK as was told in the history of Red Boat soap opera whether what is her/his name. Ng Mui or others.




note:------------------------------

5, Chin San tai is a anti-qing organization. Chiin si Dang is the sect of teaching martial arts of the organization. 1661 General Zhen Chen-Kung lead his army into Taiwan. his official, Chen Young-Hua who later changes his name to Chen Chiin-Nan went to Chiin Meng (goldern door) , xia men, Fujian. organizing the uprising/returning Chen founded the Tien Tee Hui and settle the naming to Chin San Tai. Gold Mount Platform. with the meaning, Chiin Meng and Taiwan is an unmoveable land. Chiin stand for Chiin Meng and Tai stand for Taiwan.


In the Chin San Tai , chiin si Dang gold mountain platform deligent study hall's Grandmaster (ancestors) Hall, in there are the alta (?)for pray to Tai Tzu Grandmaster, White CRane Spiritual grandmaster, Lady Ser Fu ( Fang Chi-Niang).

So, the Lady Ser Fu is a serious one who the Anti-Qing organization praying to in thier martial art studying hall's grandmaster (ancestors) hall.


(((((LAdy Seh Fu :

Ming dynastiy emperor Choong Chern has a daugther.

[note: Choong Chern is the last emperor of Ming Dynasty who hang himself when the rebel's Lee Chee-Chen take over BeiJing]


She took Chen Yong-Hua as her teacher. All these people was living in 1600's.

[Note: Chen was one of the founder of the Tien Tee Hui, and his nick name the White Crane Daoist].



(It was said that Rebel Fang Sek-Fui, is Fang Chaang-Kuang from "Zhe Jiang chuh" state's "lee Sui" area. Fang has great indepth mastering in Internal martail art. Fang was asked by Chen Chiin-Nan to guide and teach the daughter of Emperor Choong Chern. The princess changes her name to Chi-Niang. Hiding in Fujian's Foo Zhou state's Sha Lien [sand lotus] Buddhist temple )

[note: another name of Chen Yong-Hua is Chen Chiin-Nan]
[Note: she Also used Fang's last name as her last name.] )))))



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