If you would have actually paid attention you would have understood the analogy.
And it has very little to do with range.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
If you would have actually paid attention you would have understood the analogy.
And it has very little to do with range.
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Glorified TCMAist
In a nutshell..most Southern short-hand systems (as well as Hung-Ga) seek to attack the attack-immediately close with the attacker as he attempts to launch his strike,(intercept his intention) shutting him down, maintaining constant forward pressure while striking-until you are done.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Glorified TCMAist
so.. not only do I fight in a phonebooth, but I attack you while you are attempting to leave the booth, push you in, and smother you.
Then I kick over the phone booth.
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Don't forget chaining the phone booth to the back of a pick-up and driving away with it !Originally Posted by TenTigers
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Registered User
This technique, by the way, works best with a Porta-John. Just sayin'.
Registered User
haha, that's a funky visual - dragging a guy around behind a pickup truck chained inside a porta-john!
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Wing Chun Fighter
I am sorry if you feel i took your comment out of context...I just took what i glimpse over and it reminded of this movie i saw awhile ago...an i sat there an thought if ole boy practice Wing Chun he he wouldnt be getting dusted so bad in that small hall space. Ne way...go ahead and reassert your feelings of your opinions as you see fit?
In a phone booth hung ga, choy li fut and other styles would have limited mobility against wing chun...WC would have an advantage!
Wow thats cold blooded...I like it...you may just be ready to become apprentice of the dark side!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
GM of Hadaka Korosu
Why on earth would you think that?In a phone booth hung ga, choy li fut and other styles would have limited mobility against wing chun...WC would have an advantage!
Psalms 144:1
Praise be my Lord my Rock,
He trains my hands for war, my fingers for battle !
Glorified TCMAist
I was gonna say that....
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Wing Chun Fighter
In a phone booth..Hung Gar and choy li fut and other longer or round punching styles would have less advantage. Yes Hung Gar has some direct in middle attacks but the power generation is different. Wing Chun is more Linear than choy li fut or hung ga if you fight with it traditionally...
if you use choy li fut like a western boxing...you will be limited when it comes to round punches outside of the jab and right and left crosses. sure uppercuts be utilize but WC method is for going straight ie sun punch...where choy li fut uses more outside attacks that uses swinging motion to generate more power!!!
That swinging motion or swinging range would be greatly limited by an enclosed space!
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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While one has to take the reality check and realise that fighting in a phone booth is a farcical situation ...
Choy Li Fut does not solely consist if big swinging attacks. There are close range movements as well.
Sky marshals etc. have to operate in "tubular environments". And there are plenty of places which are basically narrow corridors in buildings.
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Glorified TCMAist
yeah..kinda thought your answer would be like that...
This is a very common misconception those outside the system have.
The reality is, Hung-Ga has pretty much the same techniques and power generation when using the short bridges. It is not a long bridge system that has some short hand techniques. On the contrary, it was originally a short bridge system that added longer bridging to it. Tan, bong, fook, pak, gan, kwun, yjkym, short shifting, inch power, elbows, sticking, trapping, lin sil die da, etc., have always been in the system. Look at the snake and crane techniques and one would think they are much more similar than different.
CLF's Crane and Snake, utilizes the same principles.
Power generation is similar in many cases as well-out of necessity.
Having trained in all three systems, I have more than a little knowledge on this.
(although I do admit I have spent much less time in CLF)
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
Registered User
If you train your "elbow" skill like in the following form clip, you will have better advantage than WC. Some of the northern TCMA systems do train "elbow" seriously. There was a fight in an office that 1 person had to handle 8 opponents (small space, multiple opponents). Through the whole fight, the elbow striking was only used. There were no punch, kick, lock, throw, ground game in that fight.
In a phone booth, you may have to punch 3 times to knock down one person. You may drop one person just by one single elbow. When you deal with multiple opponents in a small space, 3 punches to a person may be a "luxury".
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c21vpG6jqcE
Last edited by YouKnowWho; 02-01-2012 at 11:46 AM.
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Your argument is pretty invalid because most WC schools STILL don't train realistically.
Unless it's an Alan OR student of course.
Wing Chun Fighter
Define realistically?
Do you Train with Alan Or?
The Flow is relentless like a raging ocean with crashing waves devasting anything in its path.
"Kick Like Thunder, Strike Like Lighting, Fist Hard as Stones."
"Wing Chun flows around overwhelming force and finds openings with its constant flow of forward energy."
"Always Attack, Be Aggressive always Attack first, Be Relentless. Continue with out ceasing. Flow Like Water, Move like the wind, Attack Like Fire. Consume and overwhelm your Adversary until he is No More"
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