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    my xiaohong ive kept almost the same way that my sifu taught me, ive updated a couple of things based on what ive seen other people do (shaolin vids ive bought), very minor changes though that doesnt really effect the form. however i do have a septerate version of it that ive developed for myself. lol i call it my 'street' version (for lack of a better name). everything is still in there, but ive just raised up the stances and closed up my guard, and switched a lot to fists(personally im more comfortable using fists then palms in sparring/fightin). its a TON of fun to mess around with.

    its just for me

    i see it as a different thing than the traditional xiaohong set that i do.

    lol you'll get a kick out of this, ive been working on developing a nunchaku set, (again just for myself and because its fun) based around these two sets as well as traditional japanese nunchaku methods and techniques. this is for just a single set of nunchaku so there is still empty hand work in it. its not flashy at all. mainly a colleciton of nunchaku techniques im good at, but i needed a way to put it together in a sequence i can maintain, so i chose to use those two sets to draw from

    all this stuff is just me having fun with my kungfu though.
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    O.K. here are some of mine.

    Wu Bu Quan
    Lian Huan Quan
    Xiao Hong Quan 24 & 54
    Tong Bi Quan
    Da Hong Quan
    Chao Yang Quan
    Ba Duan Jin
    Liu He Quan
    Lo Han Quan
    Hu Quan Yi Liu & Er Liu
    Qi Xing Quan
    Gong Fu Quan
    Tai Tzu Chang Quan
    Shaolin Tai Chi

    I practice these most often cause they are in our curriculum up to level 5

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucas View Post
    my xiaohong ive kept almost the same way that my sifu taught me, ive updated a couple of things based on what ive seen other people do (shaolin vids ive bought), very minor changes though that doesnt really effect the form. however i do have a septerate version of it that ive developed for myself. lol i call it my 'street' version (for lack of a better name). everything is still in there, but ive just raised up the stances and closed up my guard, and switched a lot to fists(personally im more comfortable using fists then palms in sparring/fightin). its a TON of fun to mess around with.

    its just for me

    i see it as a different thing than the traditional xiaohong set that i do.

    lol you'll get a kick out of this, ive been working on developing a nunchaku set, (again just for myself and because its fun) based around these two sets as well as traditional japanese nunchaku methods and techniques. this is for just a single set of nunchaku so there is still empty hand work in it. its not flashy at all. mainly a colleciton of nunchaku techniques im good at, but i needed a way to put it together in a sequence i can maintain, so i chose to use those two sets to draw from

    all this stuff is just me having fun with my kungfu though.
    A really good workout is to do all your Shaolin forms with a staff (but don't change any of the movements), and then do them with a spear, and then double knives (dao) and then double sword (jian).
    You will vastly improve your martial art skills and your understanding of why the postures and movements are done that way in the particular form you are working on.
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    Hi shaolin, is this xiao bao quan you train from the gong li quan style?

    Do you know any videos of xiao bao quan?

    Tks

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    in no particular order;

    Da Tong Bei
    Xiao Hong Quan
    Da Hong Quan Yi Lu
    Chang Hu Xin Yi Men (Yi Lu with the ending from San Lu tacked on for performance purposes)
    Damo Jian
    Ba Duan Jin
    Qi Xing Tang Lang

    Currently learning Qi Xing Quan (man that Qi Xing Bu is rough on the right quadriceps)

    Two staff styles: Xiao Hou Gun (I have also seen it called Shaolin Short Stick; the staff should only come to the armpit of the practitioner and is held almost like a sword, three palm lengths from the bottom. Wonder if anyone else is familiar with this?)

    Another that elsewhere is usually called "Yin Shou Gun" but as I understand it yin shou gun is the name of a class of staff forms derived from the hand positions used to grip the weapon and not necessarily the name of the form itself. I have been told that this form is actually a modern amalgamation of methods used as an introduction into staff and spear and is not a traditional form.

    Lately I've been focusing on Da Hong (this version:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-1h8pyH7Q3Y)
    and the staff methods about 5 days a week. But I try and practice each of the above mentioned forms at least once a week.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wenshu View Post
    Da Tong Bei
    Xiao Hong Quan
    Da Hong Quan Yi Lu
    Chang Hu Xin Yi Men (Yi Lu with the ending from San Lu tacked on for performance purposes)
    Damo Jian
    Ba Duan Jin
    Qi Xing Tang Lang
    Xiao Huo Gun
    Yin Shou Gun
    Qi Xing Quan
    Thought I would update this.

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    Ba Bu Lian Huan Quan
    Rou Quan Yi Lu
    Shi San Qiang
    Xiao LuoHan Quan

    Currently learning traditional Guan Dao
    Hope to start Qi Mei Gun soon.

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    shaolin forms

    1-6 kata
    1-5 pinan
    stature of the crane (shaolin)
    2 man fist set
    hansuki
    swift tiger
    circle of the tiger
    shaolin nengle north (northern province)
    shaolin nengle south (southern province)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chines View Post
    Hi shaolin, is this xiao bao quan you train from the gong li quan style?

    Do you know any videos of xiao bao quan?

    Tks
    Xiao Bao Quan? Either my chinese really stinks (which it does) or I don't know that set. Do you mean Xiao Pao Quan/Small Cannon? To answer your question I do not train in the Gong Li "style".

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    gong li is the second form after tan tui in my old school...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    A really good workout is to do all your Shaolin forms with a staff (but don't change any of the movements), and then do them with a spear, and then double knives (dao) and then double sword (jian).
    You will vastly improve your martial art skills and your understanding of why the postures and movements are done that way in the particular form you are working on.
    im going to start that tonight. thanks
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    Since I teach, I pretty much touch on everyone one of these forms at least once a week.

    Lien Huan
    Lohan Shi Ba Shou
    Lien Bu Quan
    Gung Li Quan
    San Tien Quan
    Jing Long Quan
    Hong Quan
    Ba Duan Jin (I just learned it)
    Chao Yang Quan (This is actually not in my current kwoons curriculum, but I use it for competitions, so I practice it every once in a while)
    Wu Bu Quan (Also not in our curriculum but I like the form so I practice it every once in a while as well)
    And of course the 4 Primary weapons. Long Fist - Spear/Staff/Broadsword/Straight Sword

    Also currently learning a Southern panther form. Just throwing that one in there.

    I do have a couple of forms from the past that I would love to re-learn.
    Xiao Hu Yan and Xiao Hong Quan. I remember bits and pieces only.
    Master of Shaolin I-Ching Bu Ti, GunGoPow and I Hung Wei Lo styles.

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    I'm going to be heading to Shaolin U.K soon, though im kinda worried that they only teach Wu Bu Quan and Xiao Hong Quan.

    Gene, when you mentioned Qixing TangLang as a form, were you referring to this form?

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MH6QW6bDLzM&feature=fvsr

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    Sort of, monkeyfoot, sort of

    That form begins similarly to our qixing tanglang and echoes it until a few moves after the first turn, but it's very very different from the version we do. That's par for the course - there's a lot of variation.

    My master Shi Decheng's qixing tanglang is in our current issue (2010 July/August) - see Shaolin Seven Praying Mantis By Scott Jeffrey. I never learned that form from him. I practice a version I learned from Yan Fei. Yan Fei was from Shandong originally, so he has some root mantis in him, plus he's really long and tall, like so many Shandongers. Our new addition, Yantuo, does a qixing tanglang too. I've seen little bits of it as we use a lot of those lines for our jibengong practice, and his is quite different too. Nevertheless, you can see the root is the same. Unlike some of the more core forms of Songshan Shaolin, qixing tanglang seems to have more variation than the others. They all have variation.

    I'm told we're keeping Yanchen on our staff at O-Mei Kung Fu. Three monks, baby, THREE! Plus they're all traditionalists. I saw his guai form last night and I'm thinking I should dust off my old tamo zhang and learn his version. Shaolin life is very good at O-Mei now.
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    Thanks for the info Gene.

    I'm a Qixing TangLang player, so when I saw the Shaolin U.K guys doing a form called Qixing TangLang, I thought 'is this a form from the 7 star mantis style, or is it a shaolin thing', as I've never heard of a form within the 7 star mantis curriculum thats actually called 7 star mantis...

    I'm a bit lost with history of it, does the current issue explain this?


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