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    Quote Originally Posted by hung-le View Post
    this is great!

    it even happens at the school level.... lol

    Take me to the ground, so you got no place to run(crawl) , to escape. Makes it easy for my posse to pull a train on your azz.

    a quote from " your average gang banger"...
    LOL @ thinking the same guy couldn't have done the same thing with a sucker punch from behind while the guy was standing and exchanging with his opponent.

    You guys are truly clueless.
    Last edited by Knifefighter; 01-09-2007 at 06:29 PM.

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    Your description of how one does a technique like a struggling weakling is humorous.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knifefighter View Post
    LOL @ thinking the same guy couldn't have done the same thing with a sucker punch from behind while the guy was standing and exchanging with his opponent.

    You guys are truly clueless.
    lol.....man you must love being a pit fighter...

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    I do not practice standing arm breaks (dislocations, locks, whatever) because I go into fights intending to use them. I do not train punching because I intend to hit people.

    I train punching because I MAY have to punch someone and I train standing arm breaks because the opportunity may present its self in a fight. If someone is daft enough to leave their arm extended and hanging then it would be rude not to.

    I do not train for fighting a specific opponent (sp) as people rarely give you a vid of them fighting to study before they mug you. I try to cover all area with my training and in my experience standing arm breaks occur.

    I have used a standing joint break on the street when I was attacked with a knife. Luckily they weren't an MMA cage-fighting gorilla.

    Who honestly goes into a real fight (except security peeps) with the intention of any outcome other than winning? I say except security as the onus may be on restraint. Who honestly starts a fight and expects to finish it with one predetermined technique?

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    Quote Originally Posted by laugarkuen View Post
    Who honestly starts a fight and expects to finish it with one predetermined technique?

    i believe this is where the debate realy stems.

    no one in thier right mind would enter a match, or if attacked try to pull of specific techniques. you do what you can, when you must, to the best of your ability. or you freeze and get MDK.

    sometime it just so happens that the training for breaks/dislocations actually may come into play.

    its an innevitability of statistics really.

    now if we are talking premeditated standing arm breaks....not bloody likely, unless, as i have said before, you extremly outclass your opponent.
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    Quote Originally Posted by laugarkuen View Post
    I have used a standing joint break on the street when I was attacked with a knife. Luckily they weren't an MMA cage-fighting gorilla.
    Wow! There sure are a lot of CMA guys who have broken arms on the street. And quite a few of them who have done it while being attacked with knives... not only that, but they never seem to even get cut. I guess those Filipino guys who specialize in knives really don't have a clue when they say that most people will get cut when encountering a knife wielding opponent. Of course, they have probably never seen a deadly kung fu knife disarm that allows all these guys to inflict massive damage without getting scratched.

    One teacher even seems to specialize in having students who are attacked by thugs on the street and breaking their bones with brutal techniques learned only in forms. One of his guys even broke the arm, the jaw, and the ribs - all while being attacked by a knife wielding opponent... and this vicious barrage was all completed before the opponent even hit the ground.

    I am surely impressed with all the deadly kung fu killers walking around... I guess they are better than those lowly sport trained guys afterall... boy have I been wasting my time with that stupid MMA type training.
    Last edited by Knifefighter; 01-10-2007 at 11:49 AM.

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    Now you know why I don't worry about getting into a fight with Tito, he's afraid to leave his house.
    I quit after getting my first black belt because the school I was a part of was in the process of lowering their standards A painfully honest KC Elbows

    The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.

    Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.

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    Quote Originally Posted by rogue View Post
    Now you know why I don't worry about getting into a fight with Tito, he's afraid to leave his house.
    Now this is cool..

    Knifefighter.... I didn't know you had a side kick.

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    or...

    Rogue do you prefer to be called wingman...

    just let us know...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Knifefighter View Post
    Wow! There sure are a lot of CMA guys who have broken arms on the street. And quite a few of them who have done it while being attacked with knives... not only that, but they never seem to even get cut. I guess those Filipino guys who specialize in knives really don't have a clue when they say that most people will get cut when encountering a knife wielding opponent. Of course, they have probably never seen a deadly kung fu knife disarm that allows all these guys to inflict massive damage without getting scratched.
    Wow! Your right Kf(c), it was dishonerable of me not to blood his knife for him. I tried to perform Seppuku that night but the knife just wouldn't cut my chi belly.

    If I am not cut I am lucky, nothing more, no special skill, LUCKY! I was lucky then. That is all.

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