grappling/submission from a tiger's perspective

[uki]

here's a view from one angle... *a tiger's approach*

it's quite obvious some of these are not allowed sport competitions... or am i mistaken? can you use neck-breaks? i am a bit blurry here, but am i remembering correctly that you cannot intentionally break your opponents bones or joints in a sport fight?? gotta love the hair pulling!!!

comments please...

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

[David Jamieson]

we've discussed this here before.

this guy seems to rely on the "go moonbat crazy" style of martial art.

hardly waht i would call a tiger style.
By comparison with virtually all other tiger styles anyway.

tantrum isn't really a martial art.

[uki]

Originally Posted by David Jamieson

we've discussed this here before.

i seem to have missed that one...

this guy seems to rely on the "go moonbat crazy" style of martial art.

hardly waht i would call a tiger style.
By comparison with virtually all other tiger styles anyway.

tantrum isn't really a martial art.

LOL... truly you have forgotten that tigers and all other cats of the world, like a good dose of catnip now and again... it gives us tigers the ability to go monkey at whim - training in tiger also must embrace the apesh!t antics of the monkey in order to have a well balanced method of self-defense.

[SPJ]

yes. we discussed this many times before.

the wild stances and screaming are distractions.

but his arm movements are all ready to wrap you and take your head down on the ground and not necessarily your body first--

the legend said it has more than 2000 year old history dating all the way back to warring states and spring autumn periods.

it was practiced by bodyguards in the palace.

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actually, a cat or tiger do not do unnecessary wild moves. every move from a cat is to attack.

what an irony.

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[Dragonzbane76]

funny how the guy in white is just picking up his leg. Anybody with a half decent take down is not going to approach someone like that. usually a lot of momentum involved.

another thing is the guy in whites about the same size or a little smaller than the teacher fellow. some of the stuff he's doing would not work on a bigger opponent. some of the guys i train with are 300lbs 6'4 built like a wall. They would sit on the guy and laugh.

now grabbing the junk tech. might work in the one set.

[Hardwork108]

Originally Posted by uki

here's a view from one angle... *a tiger's approach*

it's quite obvious some of these are not allowed sport competitions... or am i mistaken? can you use neck-breaks? i am a bit blurry here, but am i remembering correctly that you cannot intentionally break your opponents bones or joints in a sport fight?? gotta love the hair pulling!!!

comments please...

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Hello Uki,

This YouTube video is a very interesting one and it stands testament to the richness of the TCMAS.

I had posted it here before myself as a demonstration of a TCMA that addresses grappling and the ground scenario. No need to say that many of this forum's clueless "kung fu-ists" put it down and even ridiculed it.

Did they have an intellectual point of reference for their confused attitudes? No, of course not, All they had was the usual "I have decades of experience in a zillion (god knows in what..Lol) martial arts". So, it was a case of the usual "Bjj is best" and the "TCMAs are not functional", BS.

They had no clue of Chin-na being applied in such scenario and missed a lot that to a REAL kung fu practitioner would have been a "gold mine". Instead they focused on ridiculing the "screaming" and the traditional clothes. It was like discussing kung fu with a bunch of school girls, LOL.

In the video itself one can see internal elements among the TCMA principles. The movements are soft and flowing. One can see "following, as force returns"; there are floating principles visible; there is no resistance to force and there are high level "listening" and "sensitivity" aspects shown.

The video has a lot in it besides the "pyjamas" and the "screaming".

HW108

[Yum Cha]

That's cool Uki. Sorry I missed the other thread first time around.

I'll bet that a lot of the foot lock application is pretty common in other grappling arts, but I really liked the rolling takedowns to capture the foot.

There is an interesting principle in his grappling, which is having the sensitivity, training or experience, to know where the weak point is in the opponents structure, and diverting power into it. Chin Na. He just takes the opportunity while visiting to mess up the furnishings.

The techniques he applies are only secondary, its his breakdowns I like.

[uki]

Originally Posted by Yum Cha

That's cool Uki. Sorry I missed the other thread first time around.

I'll bet that a lot of the foot lock application is pretty common in other grappling arts, but I really liked the rolling takedowns to capture the foot.

There is an interesting principle in his grappling, which is having the sensitivity, training or experience, to know where the weak point is in the opponents structure, and diverting power into it. Chin Na. He just takes the opportunity while visiting to mess up the furnishings.

The techniques he applies are only secondary, its his breakdowns I like.

the entire concept is brilliant because it catches people off guard... even as a spectator many of the applicational methods are a suprise - truly a beneficial attribute to the tigers arsenal.

[bawang]

qin na+ high pitched shouting like an old woman being gang raped by orangatangs = chinese special tiger kung fu
AWESOME I WANT TO LWARN

[Lee Chiang Po]

Wow. I like this kind of stuff. I have a 4th black belt in jujitsu, and we do some of this stuff. And my older brothers taught me stuff quite similar. The noises are cool too. As a distraction mouth sounds can be very applicabe. Look at Bruce Lee. I can make some the most startling sounds just before attacking with blinding speed. All seriousness aside, what was this called again? This stuff would be great in MMA fighting, but you will never see it. Those guys depend on physical strength and endurance rather than real grappling skills. I bet that gets a rise.

LCP

[Yum Cha]

I had the sound off, looks like I missed something....LOL...

[Frost]

Originally Posted by uki

here's a view from one angle... *a tiger's approach*

it's quite obvious some of these are not allowed sport competitions... or am i mistaken? can you use neck-breaks? i am a bit blurry here, but am i remembering correctly that you cannot intentionally break your opponents bones or joints in a sport fight?? gotta love the hair pulling!!!

comments please...

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

Depends on the comp, some allow neck manipulations and some don’t

most of the attacks in a grappling competition are designed to break a joint and you attack with the intention of breaking it, its just that the opponent realises he is in a bad spot and taps…usually….if he does not then you get the win and he gets a visit to the hospital and an important life session

[Frost]

Originally Posted by Hardwork108

Hello Uki,

This YouTube video is a very interesting one and it stands testament to the richness of the TCMAS.

I had posted it here before myself as a demonstration of a TCMA that addresses grappling and the ground scenario. No need to say that many of this forum's clueless "kung fu-ists" put it down and even ridiculed it.

Did they have an intellectual point of reference for their confused attitudes? No, of course not, All they had was the usual "I have decades of experience in a zillion (god knows in what..Lol) martial arts". So, it was a case of the usual "Bjj is best" and the "TCMAs are not functional", BS.

They had no clue of Chin-na being applied in such scenario and missed a lot that to a REAL kung fu practitioner would have been a "gold mine". Instead they focused on ridiculing the "screaming" and the traditional clothes. It was like discussing kung fu with a bunch of school girls, LOL.

In the video itself one can see internal elements among the TCMA principles. The movements are soft and flowing. One can see "following, as force returns"; there are floating principles visible; there is no resistance to force and there are high level "listening" and "sensitivity" aspects shown.

The video has a lot in it besides the "pyjamas" and the "screaming".

HW108

[ep because what would grapplers and MMA guys know about grappling and ground fighting

How can you say people should listen to those that know about real kung fu because we have no clue, then you yourself not listen to real grapplers and ground fighters when they offer advice on a subject you are clueless on?

[Dragonzbane76]

This YouTube video is a very interesting one and it stands testament to the richness of the TCMAS.

I had posted it here before myself as a demonstration of a TCMA that addresses grappling and the ground scenario. No need to say that many of this forum's clueless "kung fu-ists" put it down and even ridiculed it.

Did they have an intellectual point of reference for their confused attitudes? No, of course not, All they had was the usual "I have decades of experience in a zillion (god knows in what..Lol) martial arts". So, it was a case of the usual "Bjj is best" and the "TCMAs are not functional", BS.

They had no clue of Chin-na being applied in such scenario and missed a lot that to a REAL kung fu practitioner would have been a "gold mine". Instead they focused on ridiculing the "screaming" and the traditional clothes. It was like discussing kung fu with a bunch of school girls, LOL.

In the video itself one can see internal elements among the TCMA principles. The movements are soft and flowing. One can see "following, as force returns"; there are floating principles visible; there is no resistance to force and there are high level "listening" and "sensitivity" aspects shown.

The video has a lot in it besides the "pyjamas" and the "screaming".

HW108

your going to say that TCMA has a "gold mine" of ground tech. and only work on it maybe a tad? When BJJ and Judo work constantly on the ground. Why go to the second rate when you can get the gold for ground fighting in BJJ and other grappling arts?
but trying to tell you anything is like pulling teeth.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by uki

here's a view from one angle... *a tiger's approach*

it's quite obvious some of these are not allowed sport competitions... or am i mistaken? can you use neck-breaks? i am a bit blurry here, but am i remembering correctly that you cannot intentionally break your opponents bones or joints in a sport fight?? gotta love the hair pulling!!!

comments please...

hahahahahahahahahaha!!!!

The HAHAHAHAHAHAH part, is right on the button