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Old 09-01-2007, 01:23 PM
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CLF/Plum Blossom in NYC

Are there any CLF teachers in Manhattan, 2nd choice Queens?
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Old 09-01-2007, 01:47 PM
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Can't say much about Plum Blossom

But

CLF in NYC, Green Cloud
http://www.greencloud.net/index.html
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:09 PM
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Can't say much about Plum Blossom

But

CLF in NYC, Green Cloud
http://www.greencloud.net/index.html
lol - Wading River is quite far from NYC.

Lama Pai Sifu ( Sifu Parrella) teaches CLF at his schools - one is opening up in New Hyde Park pretty soon, which is on the Queens boarder.

-David
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Old 09-01-2007, 03:26 PM
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I thought Green Cloud was in Queens(should have double checked, lol). I was chillin with a couple of their instructors after the Wong 06 in the hotel bar, I thought that was what they said. I recomended them as I really liked them & their gung fu was dope.
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Old 09-01-2007, 05:48 PM
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when it comes to joining schools other than Sifu Parella's in NYC / LI / upstate that advertise teaching Chan Tai San's CLF, caveat emptor...

the best way to discern is to observe critically and to ask very specific questions about the style, the forms, etc.: the answers one gets should be specific, verifiable and not given in a manner that appears vague and evasive; be especially wary about grandiose and improbable claims (e.g. - anyone who speaks as if CTS was the greatest TCMAist ever, was the only person in the history of TCMA who really knew anything valid, raised them from childhood and passed on 100 different styles to them - run, run fast, run far...);

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Old 09-02-2007, 08:34 AM
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when it comes to joining schools other than Sifu Parella's in NYC / LI / upstate that advertise teaching Chan Tai San's CLF, caveat emptor...

the best way to discern is to observe critically and to ask very specific questions about the style, the forms, etc.: the answers one gets should be specific, verifiable and not given in a manner that appears vague and evasive; be especially wary about grandiose and improbable claims (e.g. - anyone who speaks as if CTS was the greatest TCMAist ever, was the only person in the history of TCMA who really knew anything valid, raised them from childhood and passed on 100 different styles to them - run, run fast, run far...);
the multitude of individuals claiming to have trained with CTS boggles the mind, especially when you consider they don't have a single picture of themselves with him, often have basic facts about the man wrong and, oh yes, DO NOT SPEAK A WORD OF CANTONESE

Michael Parrella is the only direct student of CTS teaching his CLF. Steve Ventura (Fit2Fight) is the only direct student of CTS teachign his Lama Pai. As most are aware, I teach in a "san da format", ie I do not teach traditional nor accept students to learn traditional, so I do not count.
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Michael Parrella is the only direct student of CTS teaching his CLF. Steve Ventura (Fit2Fight) is the only direct student of CTS teachign his Lama Pai. As most are aware, I teach in a "san da format", ie I do not teach traditional nor accept students to learn traditional, so I do not count.
your site still says you train a select group of students in lama pai... when did you stop all together?
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training a select few and accepting students are two entirely different things....
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training a select few and accepting students are two entirely different things....
I find this quite interesting. Excuse me for the derail, and i don't mean to pry, but you seem to have made your opinion of TMA training very clear. May i ask why you continue to train some students traditionally, and what kind of people you accept?
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i don't mean to pry
then don't.....

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what kind of people you accept?
I don't....
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I don't....
well what type do you select? lol

Does Sifu Parrella teach Lama as well as CLF, and who is the better teacher for Lama between him and Sifu Ventura?
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who is the better teacher?
until they fight a battle to the death with sledge hammers, in kung fu slippers, at the land fill, at 4 am, we'll never know, will we?
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well what type do you select? lol

Does Sifu Parrella teach Lama as well as CLF, and who is the better teacher for Lama between him and Sifu Ventura?
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Sifu P. does teach Lama, but I believe, and could be wrong, that it's not his emphasis (despite his screen name), whereas I'd say that the inverse was true fro Sifu V.

of the CTS students that I know personally who I believe are teaching publically, I would say that one could reliably study what he taught with any of the following Sifus (in no particular order; and all of whom speak Cantonese): Ventura, Parella, Ross or Innocenzi; if there are others doing so, I either don't know about it, or what they are teaching and how they teach it is highly suspect (e.g. - never learned / forgot a significant amount of material; couldn't speak Chinese and therefore were unable to communicate with Sifu CTS; teach in a very unstructured and haphazzard manner; make strange claims /overstate the nature of their relationship with CTS)
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then don't.....

I don't....
you take yourself too seriously. i was just wondering if you thought that traditional training could actually be of some benefit to certain people, because i usually respect your opinions.
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you take yourself too seriously
not in the least, refer to my photoshops, particularly the Shaolin Taco series

I do not accept students to do Lama Pai. It's really that simple
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