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Old 11-04-2002, 01:14 PM
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Smile hi my friends ( about kung fu spiit in wing chun)

HI my friend and like first im like to say in last time im see more serios and good topic and ideas and theme for discut.. that im thinks its good and nice for wing chun like style and for jung wingchunger, my friends many or great nomber of wing chuner traning for selfdefence , for good and strong boddy, for somting naber , but how about people tho traning wing chun serios for more ? how about wingchuners tho have place in world of kung fu? are energy its only power or are in anny case energy have place in wing chun ? are energy tho we know its only power tho we can use only dimenzion of power ?im thinks NO are relaksation tho we know its same relaksation after serios traning , traning strong and progresiv ? im thinks NOT , im thinks for road of ewry wingchunger after some level must thinks good and serios to help to serios jung wingchuners for serios progresiv road to see onther side to prepare for serios job to be kung fu , to be kreateur , and to see basic strategy in wing chun style -IN THAT CASE WE CANT HAVE ANY MORE TOPIC LIKE : HOW ABOUT WING CHUN AND AIKIDO TOGEDER OR SOMTING NABER ,( wing chun style its road of fridom ,road tho have great opportunity to break orbital styles , must see that , must see speed , must be kung fu kreateur , or we have dangerous to go in road and world of derivates and lose kung fu and onthers opportunity in kung fu world) - just friendly tiger_1
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Old 11-04-2002, 02:28 PM
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Re: about kung fu spirit in wing chun

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HI my friend and like first im like to say in last time im see more serios and good topic and ideas and theme for discut.. that im thinks its good and nice for wing chun like style and for jung wingchunger, my friends many or great nomber of wing chuner traning for selfdefence , for good and strong boddy, for somting naber , but how about people tho traning wing chun serios for more? how about wingchuners tho have place in world of kung fu? are energy its only power or are in anny case energy have place in wing chun ? are energy tho we know its only power tho we can use only dimenzion of power ?im thinks NO
Most of us on this forum are Wing Chun novices and often the discussion is on topics that are based in misconception of Wing Chun principles. Power development is not the first thing one should be concerned with. In order of importance, IMO, we should train position, structure (horse), speed, and then, finally, power. Power is the outcome of the other three factors. Kung Fu requires "hard work." It is hard because it is often repetitive and painful. Most seek an easier way.
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are relaksation tho we know its same relaksation after serios traning , traning strong and progresiv ? im thinks NOT , im thinks for road of ewry wingchunger after some level must thinks good and serios to help to serios jung wingchuners for serios progresiv road to see onther side to prepare for serios job to be kung fu , to be kreateur , and to see basic strategy in wing chun style
If you are saying that each senior Wing Chun student and teacher has a responsibility to pass on the art intact and whole, then I agree. It is sad to realize that at many schools, a person is considered a senior after only two or three years in study. I think for most people, it takes five to 10 years to have even an inkling of the depth of Wing Chun. It just plain takes time to develop in an individual, both physically and mentally. Superficial training will give a false confidence and mistakenly convey the idea that one understands the principles of Wing Chun, which is unlike any other martial art.
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-IN THAT CASE WE CANT HAVE ANY MORE TOPIC LIKE : HOW ABOUT WING CHUN AND AIKIDO TOGEDER OR SOMTING NABER ,( wing chun style its road of fridom ,road tho have great opportunity to break orbital styles , must see that , must see speed , must be kung fu kreateur , or we have dangerous to go in road and world of derivates and lose kung fu and onthers opportunity in kung fu world)
There is a danger of mixing Wing Chun with other arts, that in the actual practice on the street, one will be confused in action. While some individuals can successfully study more than one style, I fear that more time in Wing Chun would produce a more effective fighter. Having said this, it is still advisable to learn about other styles. This doesn't mean one needs to try to incorporate styles with different principles into Wing Chun, but it's an individual choice. As for me, I will study Wing Chun exclusively, and if I should pass it on, then I will pass on the whole art in the hope that others will benefit in the future.
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Old 11-04-2002, 06:10 PM
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IN THAT CASE WE CANT HAVE ANY MORE TOPIC LIKE : HOW ABOUT WING CHUN AND AIKIDO TOGEDER OR SOMTING NABER

Wing Chun : Cut them off.
Aikido : Lead them on.

They would be difficult to combine.
Anyway, Aikido is a psychotheraputic practice, not a martial art.
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Old 11-04-2002, 06:22 PM
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Talking The Kung Fu Spiit in Wing Chun :D

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IN THAT CASE WE CANT HAVE ANY MORE TOPIC LIKE : HOW ABOUT WING CHUN AND AIKIDO TOGEDER OR SOMTING NABER
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Wing Chun : Cut them off.
Aikido : Lead them on.

They would be difficult to combine.
Anyway, Aikido is a psychotheraputic practice, not a martial art.
Fine, then substitute grappling, BJJ, Muay Thai, or Taiji for Aikido. Mix 'em up and pay the price.

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Old 11-05-2002, 11:33 AM
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Thumbs up Hey Tiger_1

You're right!...There are many reasons to train in Wing Chun . It can be a good way to simply keep in good shape and learn some self-defense or be simply devastating depending on how you train.
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Old 11-06-2002, 02:27 AM
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It is sad to realize that at many schools, a person is considered a senior after only two or three years in study. I think for most people, it takes five to 10 years to have even an inkling of the depth of Wing Chun. It just plain takes time to develop in an individual, both physically and mentally. Superficial training will give a false confidence and mistakenly convey the idea that one understands the principles of Wing Chun, which is unlike any other martial art.
I couldn't agree more...
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