Give this a try.
50% ethyl alcohol, 35% water and 15% Chinese rice vinegar.
Mike Biggie
http://akronkungfu.com/html/chinese_herbs.html
Give this a try.
50% ethyl alcohol, 35% water and 15% Chinese rice vinegar.
Mike Biggie
http://akronkungfu.com/html/chinese_herbs.html
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Originally Posted by RD'S Alias - 1A
I have easily beaten every one I have ever fought.....
Thanks for that.....
My Chinese mother n law found it somewhat amusing that I was going to attempt to make rice wine. She LHAO in fact and told me go buy some spirits as it would be a heck of a lot easier and 100% guaranteed to work.
Will go see a few chemists tomorrow to see if I can get non denatured ethanol...can see the look on the shopkeepers face already.
Cheers guys,
David
If you are wanting purely external use only from this, you can simply go to a chemical supply company and get the ethanol - listed as a solvent. It is available as 'mostly' ethanol - meaning it has about 1 or 2% methanol (ie wood alcohol) so it would NOT be potable (consumable).
Since a PROOF is 0.5%, mixing 50% of the ethanol and 50% water gives you basically a vodka equivalent. We have used this quite successfully. (after all, 100 proof whiskey is 50% alcohol, 49% water, and 1% flavoring/color/impurities)...
More effective using vinegar, eh? It doesn't surprise me especially if its for soothing the tendons. Gosh, maybe that's what I need for my knee...
Some say vinegar is not so good, though, as long term use may soften the bones from some sort of acid reaction with the calcium. 'least that's the theory.
As always, it comes down to chemistry. You gotta have the right balance of solvents to extract the active ingredients. It's a polar/nonpolar kinda thing, ya know?
cheers
herb ox
Thanks all for all the suggestions above.
I spent half a day going from Chemist to Chemist asking for 2 litres of (transparent) Ethanol. Strangely enough, none were prepared to sell such a large quantity to me. Might have something to do with the drug problem here in NZ.
I ended up managing to buy the Ethanol from an old client of mine. It has a very small % of Methanol in it to prevent ingestion. Only way of buying Ethanol over the counter in NZ.
Will only intending to use it for external use.
So I ended up using a mix of 50% water and 50% ethanol....over $100 cheaper than the vodka equivalent.
Pics attached....
I want to make an oil-based, dit da yao, which would be good fror more intensive massage. If I take my standard jow, and allow the alcohol to evaporate, what oil can I use to mix it with?
I am looking for an oil that won't go rancid, yet is not a petroleum product, as I am thinking that I don't want to absorb petroleum into the body.
Any ideas?
"My Gung-Fu may not be Your Gung-Fu.
Gwok-Si, Gwok-Faht"
"I will not be part of the generation
that killed Kung-Fu."
....step.
The easiest approach is probably Olive Oil. It penetrates well and is obviously very common. Castor oil is cheap cheap and while its not very good oil or have very good penetration, it does linger around making it good for massage.
You could always go the rectified turpentine route; Ive been able to buy some at paint stores on the net for a reasonable price.
Olive Oil Pomice grade is the best oil to use.
Almond oil is too expensive.
To make Dit Da Yu( Dit Da Oil), you would have to boil the herbs in the oil. I usually grind them up and heat the oil and then add the herbs.
You have to watch it constantly as if it overheats it can catch fire.
PM me off forum and I can talk to you more about it.
Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.
Sesame oil is the traditional base (that and pork fat)... heat the oil until it just begins to smoke then add the herbs and let them cook for awhile on low heat.
Filtering the oil is the hardest part, I think. I wound up just using a strainer and that got most of the big stuff out.
peace
herb ox
No idea on how well it would work as a dit da base, but the best oil I've ever seen for just absolutely never going rancid is coconut.
What you guys recommend to replace Tiger Bone for toughening the bone, skin, ligaments, etc etc? I know I can use pig bone but, I would like a none animal herb instead. What you guys use?
ginosifu
Gino,
You can add Du Zhong 60 grams to any formula to help strengthen the bones.
Many use a combo of Wu Jia Pi, Du Zhong, and Ba Ji Tian to help strengthen the bones, and the kidneys which rule the bones according to Chinese Medicine
Tiger Bone was used as they thought it had great levels of Qi from the tiger in it.
I do not use Tiger Bone but have used elk bone, bear bone, stallion bone, and other big animals.
You can take any bone, soak it in vinegar and then bake it on low heat for 4-6 hours. Break that up and you have a great substitute for tiger bone.
Last edited by Dale Dugas; 05-05-2011 at 09:49 AM.
Mouth Boxers have not the testicular nor the spinal fortitude to be known.
Hence they hide rather than be known as adults.