I'm not saying that BJJ isn't good. I trained in it for a year and a half and have been wrestling since high school (15 years ago). I just feel more safer with stand up fighting although my ground game isn't bad. I feel that I can hold my own. I wasn't trying to say grappling wasn't good. Just IMO it isn't the best for a bar fight scenerio. And I do not condone starting fights in bars.
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I can appreciate that. And honestly, there's nothing better than that feeling when you KNOW you can whoop that guy. And that it's just a matter of time and then WHAM! You crack him good a few times until its over. There's nothing like that feeling. That thing that builds inside to face that scenario and then a quick, safe release. But you're still amped and trying to calm to deal with polite society.
Just right now, I'm actually into Jiu-jitsu --sorry SimonN for the oversight... nice seeing your still alive -- because you can tool someone without the severe damage. I'm actually injured more now, you know how it is, but cracking some guy in the head right now -- other than for a fight based on some bigger life plan (coaching, pro fighting) -- just doesn't seem right.
At the same time I've hung my heavy back to get my kicks back. Working combos in close trying to use internal principles... not for magic, but for economy. Even lightly bumping the head between rounds to toughen it.
I'm getting ready to go back in soon.
again I would say that most people who train martial arts will have a hard time a bar fight. You can make the same arguments about any standup art. Multiple attackers, weapons ect.. will they do any better? depends on how they train not really what they train. Lets be honest here your average person throws two punches a sloppy hook and a sloppy straight.
Again how many striking arts train getting back up? or escaping from someone being ontop of you?
in a perfect world you wont fall or get hit.. but in my experience once you get hit hard you fall. so.. know what?
If we are talking about surviving a bar fight forget all martail arts. Just learn the
learn to defend the basic punches and drill them into the ground. Spar and learn the basics of ground fighting.
You can learn less much less than any expert in those arts and prob have a good chance of surviving a fight.
its really about training methods. JMO what do I know?
OK like I said I only trained BJJ for 1 1/2 years so I don't know a lot about it like you probably do so I have a question......Does BJJ teach how to throw kicks and punches? Because when I studied BJJ we were only taught takedowns and submissions and most of the submissions were taught from an already down position.
As for a fight in a bar or anywhere for that matter a stand up fighter has options of using elbow strikes and kicks to the knee to take out an attacker quickly so that he/she can move on to the next attacker if there is more than 1.
With low kicks to the knee and short range strikes such as an elbow to the skull the amount of room to throw these techniques are more advantagous for the bar scene.