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  1. #16
    Quote Originally Posted by Jun Fan
    Hey Demi, I just noticed you're in Paso Robles. I love that town. Some friends of my family used to live there a few years back. That is a really beautiful part of the state. If I ever moved back to Cali I would definitely want to live in that area.




    P.S. You're full of ****! Judging by that clip I'd say your "system" is nothing but the same old same old. By the way, your statement about traditional MA being useless in the real world was classic. I've got $50 that says my Shifu would whoop your excessively tattooed ass.
    realistically, people from traditional styles get owned all the time. We've all seen it happen. a guy from my old longfist school was getting beaten in a bar, and controlled the situation when he started using his high school wrestling. I've seen karate and tkd black belts get dominated by untrained guys in street fights. But on the same token, two of the best fighters I know are a karate and tkd guy. It's all in the training methods.
    Last edited by SevenStar; 03-15-2006 at 02:10 PM.
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

    -Charles Manson

    I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.

    - Shonie Carter

  2. #17
    Quote Originally Posted by WOW
    traditional ma does work otherwise it wouldn't have survived this long. also, TMA has been tested thoughout its history may be less so in the modern age. sure, lots of teaching done these days are about forms and sets. your mind set is vital if you hesitate then your lights will go out!

    I have always hated both of these arguments. tae bo has been going strong for about 15 years now, it must be effective in the street too, right? I mean, it IS based on ma...

    The most popular ma on the planet right now (and has been for years) is TKD - a sport that is less than 100 years old. judo is probably second. - another sport, less than 200 years old.

    most people don't train for the sole purpose of fighting or learning to defend themselves. they want to get in shape - without using a treadmill, find an activity for the family to do, simply learn more about another culture, etc. The arts have survived because people have wanted them around for some miscellaneous reason - not simply because it's effective.

    tma has been tested... no, really it hasn't. those practitioners have been tested. When I compete, I'm not testing muay thai, nor was I testing judo, longfist or anything else I've trained. I was testing ME. Those practitioners were being tested as well. the fact that they fought and lived noes not lend credibility to the idea that you are good. they can't test something for you...
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

    -Charles Manson

    I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.

    - Shonie Carter

  3. #18
    Quote Originally Posted by Taiji-Rory
    I've said this before but you are at the end of the day fighting normal people, I find the way people these days tend say the words 'street fight' with a sought of reverence odd, Their is of course a difference between those who study for sport and those who study to know their art, but street fighting is often made out to be some big terrifying ordeal the fact is most people don't know how to fight or are drunk when they do, so theirs very little to fear... Obviously weapons are an issue but if you train hard, you can slowly chip away at the risk...

    The smart MA will not just blanketly assume these things.

    1. street fighting CAN be terrifying
    2. not everyone on the street is untrained
    3. unless you are at a bar, then the chances are slim that your opponent will be drunk.
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

    -Charles Manson

    I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.

    - Shonie Carter

  4. #19
    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar

    tma has been tested... no, really it hasn't. those practitioners have been tested. When I compete, I'm not testing muay thai, nor was I testing judo, longfist or anything else I've trained. I was testing ME. Those practitioners were being tested as well. the fact that they fought and lived noes not lend credibility to the idea that you are good. they can't test something for you...
    Sure, its always about the individual! Why would it be anything else But, if you don't use your training and use something else, then why not do that something else.

    Tested in time - in HK back in 70's students looking for new schools/systems didn't just pay a fee, they would challenge the instructor and only joined if they were convincingly beaten. The instructor would normally allow the new student/challenger to pick from his senior students. A duel would follow if the challenger won then existing students would leave the school. The challenger looses would join the school and introduce others. Challengers would have studied a previous system before.

    I guess most schools today don't train their students to fight nor do most students want to train to fight. Self defense may be their aim.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar
    realistically, people from traditional styles get owned all the time. We've all seen it happen. a guy from my old longfist school was getting beaten in a bar, and controlled the situation when he started using his high school wrestling. I've seen karate and tkd black belts get dominated by untrained guys in street fights. But on the same token, two of the best fighters I know are a karate and tkd guy. It's all in the training methods.

    I agree. I was commenting on his statement that TMA's are "Useless". While a vast majority of MA practitioners these days are hacks and poseurs that's got nothing to do with the MA's they pretend to study. It's all about the individual and the training.

  6. #21
    Quote Originally Posted by WOW
    Sure, its always about the individual! Why would it be anything else But, if you don't use your training and use something else, then why not do that something else.

    Tested in time - in HK back in 70's students looking for new schools/systems didn't just pay a fee, they would challenge the instructor and only joined if they were convincingly beaten. The instructor would normally allow the new student/challenger to pick from his senior students. A duel would follow if the challenger won then existing students would leave the school. The challenger looses would join the school and introduce others. Challengers would have studied a previous system before.

    I guess most schools today don't train their students to fight nor do most students want to train to fight. Self defense may be their aim.
    I agree. I don't consider that a test of the style though, merely the individual. If a guy walked into a school to challenge, he just may have picked the one student that could beat him. Or, he may have just had an off day. I can't call that a test of the style, but just a test of the way YOU use the style.
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

    -Charles Manson

    I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.

    - Shonie Carter

  7. #22
    Yeah, how can you test a style anyway? Styles don't feel pain, no style has a will. Fights are about attributes, not styles. My belief is that every style on earth has what it takes to do the job. Whether it's a groin shot or a kimura lock, it's up to the man to make it happen. Which should go without saying.

    But, this guy Barbarito has the worst analogies ever. Knife fighting just boggles my mind. One day someone is actually gonna use this knifefighting in a defense situation and find themselves locked up. You can't slice someone 347 times and walk away scot free. Jesus. This man is full of fear.
    "Let your rapidity be that of the wind, your compactness that of the forest.
    In raiding and plundering be like fire, in immovability like a mountain.
    Let your plans be dark and impenetrable as night, and when you move, fall like a thunderbolt." - Sun Tzu

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    That was such a STUPID Vid.

    I cant stop laughing at the analogies this guy was spouting to justify his little buisness venture. I also cant stop laughing at those eyebrows either(the hair do sure does match as well). LOL

    TWS
    It makes me mad when people say I turned and ran like a scared rabbit. Maybe it was like an angry rabbit, who was going to fight in another fight, away from the first fight.

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