BTL- Why did you delete your own thread??

[WhiteMonkey]

........??????

[xifanghong]

Bungbukuen posted there just before, must have been to do with that.

[WhiteMonkey]

really ?.......what did he say that was so bad, that he would delete his own thread....was it really bad?

maybe he could have just deleated his post....hay Bungbukuen, what did you post??

[Three Harmonies]

White monkey
I could care less about all this mumbo jumbo, but I have one small request........
If you are going to continue to talk sh..... ooop's....... smack, and in general act like a troll (not saying, just saying) could you be courteous enough to at least share your name and lineage?
Thanks
Jake

[WhiteMonkey]

You going to call me a **** talker and a troll and then ask me for my info.......

If anyone is a troll here........it's you homie

"SNAP!! "

Just because I'm not here to play pattycake with the rest of you, my points are still valid, BTL calls me in a thread, then deleates it, while I'm posting him a reply...........and I question it.........so I'm a troll...........please!

[BeiTangLang]

You going to call me a **** talker and a troll and then ask me for my info.......

If anyone is a troll here........it's you homie

"SNAP!! "

Just because I'm not here to play pattycake with the rest of you, my points are still valid, BTL calls me in a thread, then deleates it, while I'm posting him a reply...........and I question it.........so I'm a troll...........please!

I deleted it because I really didn't want your input after thinking about it. If you still feel the urge to "Discuss", I can re-post the quote I had questioned.

[bungbukuen]

Originally posted by BTL
I found this post of yours interesting enough for the mantis community(If not for the community,...then for myself. Either way, its mantis...) to ask you point blank, what are you talking about??

Don't assume that I know anything about mantis or the politics & just spill your guts out to me. While your at it, show me some documentation (or at least verbal confirmation of your sources) for proof of your statements.

Oh,..and since my mind is not what it once was,...who is your instructor again??

Lets discuss,....

~BTL

I think that is what BTL originally posted. Please correct me if I am wrong BTL and I will edit it immediatley. If not appropriate altogether quoting your original post verbatim I can also delete it. No worries, your call. Anyway my follow up went something like this...

I am guessing White Monkey might have been talking about Sifu Cottrell and the entire disciple incident.

I myself noticed lot of people spent a lot of time in a lot of threads talking about the word disciple and basically how in a nut shell it was over rated. But then at the same time seems people did not have too much to say about teachers who use the word publicly or even fabricate it. I think that might be the contrast White Monkey was talking about when he mentioned support. But then again it would be better to hear directly from him.

As for what White Monkey meant about Sifu Cottrell teachers and who they are I have know idea. But I am guessing BTL like you said it was probably just a smoke screen to draw more attention back onto the Sifu Cottrell incident.

About documentation I think I read on another forum somewhere that the Lai family lineage knows exactly who is and who is not on the disciple list so to speak. But it seems they have made something of a group decision to keep their disciples names confidential and not publish it on any internet forums. I really do not blame them. If there are more doubts BTL about more people claiming to be disciples, it just might just be easier to go directly to the source and check things out. I do not think White Monkey will have anything.

Three Harmonies I noticed you were fairly outspoken and vocal on the whole issue of disciple. I tend to agree. I also know you pride yourself on being non PC and outspoken on all issues. Commendable. But you seemed to have absolutely nothing to say on the entire issue of people of claiming to be recognized disciples when they are not. Basically issues of honesty and integrity which I thought you would have jumped all over. Your thoughts perhaps for discussion?

Oh yes and lets hear from White Monkey....

[Three Harmonies]

WM
The one simple way to prove you are not a **** talker, or troll is simply to post who you are. (Not to mention I did not call you either, but I referred to you acting like one, which BTW you are doing once more)
I am personally tired of you guys who talk your trash and act big as life behind a monitor and keyboard. Now please understand I do not mind trash talking, as I am privy to it myself , but at least I have the huevos (I sincerely hope this is accpetable to all censors) to share my name and not hide behind a veil. I am not sure what you are afraid of, but I apologize for making you feel threatened or cornered. I was only trying to give you an opportunity to prove to all your critics that you were in fact NOT a troll.

Cheers
Jake

[WhiteMonkey]

Homie I don’t have to prove jack to you, and show me where I was acting big?
or was it your self, when you chimed in?

"threatened or cornered." ..... not from you "Jake"

BTL you know what I'm talking about, don’t act like you don’t, the only reason you deleted my thread was to save face ....so go on and save it.......

As for your teacher its funny how sooner or later the truth comes out...

By the way my comment was ment to be a comment that’s it, I don’t have to go over it, explain it, break it down...none of that....

I know that he's your teacher, and it must bother you but keep your personal feeling to your self, just because, I'm not a supporter the MQ Clan , like your buddy "Jake", doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to post here, be heard, and say what I want with out being challenged, EVEN IF IT IS ABOUT YOUR TEACHER

If you really think about, by calling me out....maybe your the troll......2nd strike, do you have a personal issue with me because I dont agree with you?......

Anyways......all I had to say was your teacher claims to be something he is not for personal gain, and glory, just like his teacher. setting up conference’s and forums and blah...blah...blah....all for the mantis community......more like for himself.....please....if you only knew, oh wait you do!

Now go ahead and delete it again........

[BeiTangLang]

Homie I don’t have to prove jack to you, and show me where I was acting big?
or was it your self, when you chimed in?

"threatened or cornered." ..... not from you "Jake"

BTL you know what I'm talking about, don’t act like you don’t, the only reason you deleted my thread was to save face ....so go on and save it.......

As for your teacher its funny how sooner or later the truth comes out...

By the way my comment was ment to be a comment that’s it, I don’t have to go over it, explain it, break it down...none of that....

I know that he's your teacher, and it must bother you but keep your personal feeling to your self, just because, I'm not a supporter the MQ Clan , like your buddy "Jake", doesn’t mean I don’t have the right to post here, be heard, and say what I want with out being challenged, EVEN IF IT IS ABOUT YOUR TEACHER

If you really think about, by calling me out....maybe your the troll......2nd strike, do you have a personal issue with me because I dont agree with you?......

Anyways......all I had to say was your teacher claims to be something he is not for personal gain, and glory, just like his teacher. setting up conference’s and forums and blah...blah...blah....all for the mantis community......more like for himself.....please....if you only knew, oh wait you do!

Now go ahead and delete it again........

"Who are they supporting who claims to be something he's not....just like his teacher?? This sounds interesting. "
[FYI,...the exact quote was , "So what does that mean, I can type up a post that i spoke with....blah...blah...blah, and they stated that....blah...blah....
come on??

You guys are supporting a guy who claims to be something he's not....just like his teacher....figure it out.....hahahahahahah

laughing all the way, you guys belive everything you read???

If you only knew.....now watch BTL close this one!

lets discuss.....
" from the "Announcement2" thread.]



Well I can safely say your talking about Sifu Cottrell now. So,...who they are supporting is Steve Cottrell; who has admitted that he was not a "disciple" but still a student & still passing along Brendan Lai's Mantis.

So, what about the "Just like his teacher" part?
~BTL

[xifanghong]

"Just like his teacher"


WM looks like you want to say that Brendan Lai's skills were not up to being a teacher or that he lied about his lineage? That's quite serious. Can you clarify?

[BeiTangLang]

So, what about the "Just like his teacher" part?
You said "Lets discuss".

I've asked the questions you have alluded to have the aswers to.
All I'm asking for is the answer & from where you recieved it.

~BTL

[Three Harmonies]

WM is a joke, that is fairly obvious. Why are you using my name is quaotations?
Jake

[shirkers1]

"Just like his teacher"


WM looks like you want to say that Brendan Lai's skills were not up to being a teacher or that he lied about his lineage? That's quite serious. Can you clarify?

My thoughts exactly zifangchong...

WM please clarify. Also are you the same WhiteMonkey on bullshido?

I like to hear both sides of every story then make my own decisions.

Might I add, speaking from experience that answering in a smart ass tone will not get you much respect or in the end the answers you're looking for. I'm the biggest dip at doing that on these boards and at times I wish I wouldn't come off like that.

[BeiTangLang]

really ?.......what did he say that was so bad, that he would delete his own thread....was it really bad?

maybe he could have just deleated his post....hay Bungbukuen, what did you post??

It had nothing to do with anything other than my not wanting my post up anymore; but since you revived it:


So, what about the "Just like his teacher" part?
You said "Lets discuss".

I've asked the questions you have alluded to have the aswers to.
All I'm asking for is the answer & from where you recieved it.

( I am curious about your name & lineage as well....beings that you know mine, I would like to know yours as well)

Best Wishes as always,
~BTL