Originally Posted by
fiercest tiger
I dont think kung fu has better ground work then BJJ because thats what they do only. Kung fu has alot more involvemnt with stand up, clinch and throws, takedowns, but limited ground work. Kung fu rather finish standing or takedown and smash without the wrestling.
Although a friend of mine at work is BJJ and submission grappling his ground work is very smooth and he knows his ****, but so far he hasnt taken me down and we havent tested our hands yet with gloves on. Soon it will happen though!!
Its hard to prove that kung fu has a great fighting arsenal but whats lacking is no kung fu guys are entering MMA to see if they can stand up to the MMA. IMHO kung fu is really a MMA but specialises in stand up more so then ground. Iceman beat Randy and he is a groundfighter.Iceman is more a kempo and thai guy with some background now in groundfighting. Its how you train and against all ranges not just forms in kung fu!
hope this helps!
FT
IMO, kung fu does not fall into the MMA category, generally. there is not enough diversity. to "have grappling in the system" isn't enough... you must be actively training it on a regular basis. being made up of multiple styles isn't the sole requirement.
As for iceman, the reason he's so effective is that he trains grappling. His kempo and thai gave him decent hands, but he is awesome at defending takedowns - that didn't come from either kempo or thai boxing.... chuck was captain of his high school wrestling team and has been training bjj for the past six years. He uses this knowledge to help him defend the takedown, then strike.
EDIT: he was a division 1 wrestler through four years of college as well.
Last edited by SevenStar; 04-29-2005 at 10:31 AM.
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