Is Taiji a striking art?

[bawang]

If you can't see this, you are not looking closely enough.

you need to get your head out of that chung moo do mindset. you have never left it.

[PalmStriker]

If someone can move like this and also strike nerve points to temporarily paralyze the limbs of an opponent to end a conflict, 1, 2, 3: What's not to like? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ib2SNVjlbgQ

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

you need to get your head out of that chung moo do mindset. you have never left it.

It has nothing to do with that. I am looking at where Taiji came from. It explains why it is, what it is today. It's just softer and more gentile.

For example, today they don't pin the opponent and kill hem with a boot knife after the takedown. They let him fall and are done. But everything up to that point is pretty much the same...except maybe for a greater emphasis on the softer energy. Thats about it.

It's all about taking their root, and disrupting their balance so they can be taken down with one kind of a scissor style takedown, or another. The forms are chock full of them.

All the softer, accepting and redirecting energy and all that stuff are just the preferred means to get to the core specialty; which is scissor (often called leaver) style takedowns. All kinds of little hip, thigh and knee bumping are utilized in the preliminary process as well.

It's not the hard, aggressive style of throwing like Shuai Jiao. It's a softer, de-balancing, structurally disrupting form of takedown. That is what Taji specialists in. Thats what it is.

It's a take down art that focuses on a fairly specific style of takedown. One could almost say it is the Yin, to the Yang of Shuai Jiao.

[bawang]

It has nothing to do with that. I am looking at where Taiji came from. It explains why it is, what it is today. It's just softer and more gentile.

For example, today they don't pin the opponent and kill hem with a boot knife after the takedown. They let him fall and are done. But everything up to that point is pretty much the same...except maybe for a greater emphasis on the softer energy. Thats about it.

It's all about taking their root, and disrupting their balance so they can be taken down with one kind of a scissor style takedown, or another. The forms are chock full of them.

All the softer, accepting and redirecting energy and all that stuff are just the preferred means to get to the core specialty; which is scissor (often called leaver) style takedowns. All kinds of little hip, thigh and knee bumping are utilized in the preliminary process as well.

It's not the hard, aggressive style of throwing like Shuai Jiao. It's a softer, de-balancing, structurally disrupting form of takedown. That is what Taji specialists in. Thats what it is.

It's a take down art that focuses on a fairly specific style of takedown. One could almost say it is the Yin, to the Yang of Shuai Jiao.

yes, song dynasty military practiced wrestling. but tai chi lesbian scissor legs is not proper wrestling. its made up fake wrestling.


yes, tai chi has soft and redirecting, but you take it out of proportion into extreme magic methods. I give an example:

-in longfist the mongol half hip throw is called ride tiger. in tai chi you step back and borrow force to throw, its called reverse ride tiger.

-in longfist scout hands you charge forward and jab your palm to the opponents face. in tai chi its high scout hand, you let your opponent attack forward and use his own momentum to knock out.

- in longfist stomping single whipe; in tai chi its dodge sideways single whip.

- in longfist ride dragon, cover your face and smashes into the opoonent; in tai chi, you run away first, lure your opponent to chase, then smash into him, adding his momentum. this is called reverse ride dragon.

[MightyB]

yes, song dynasty military practiced wrestling. but tai chi lesbian scissor legs is not proper wrestling. its made up fake wrestling.

Winner?
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[RD'S Alias - 1A]

I have one golden rule in kung fu. if it feels weird, its fake. you wrote a 1000 word essay based on one thing: tai chi teachers like to show the weird scissor uproot non-wrestling wrestling.

yes, song dynasty military practiced wrestling. but tai chi lesbian scissor legs is not proper wrestling. its made up fake wrestling.

It's not wrestling at all. never said it was. It's a
'takedown", as opposed to a "Throw"

yes, tai chi has soft and redirecting, but you take it out of proportion into extreme magic methods.

Never said it was anything magical either. I just matter of factually stated what it was (Scissor style takedown) and compared it to something sort of similar most people are more familiar with (Throws).

Both methods put the guy on the ground. One throws them there, and the other makes them fall due to stealing their balance. Nothing magical about it.

[bawang]

It's not wrestling at all. never said it was. It's a
'takedown", as opposed to a "Throw"

weird awkward scissor "uprooting" is not a real take down.

ask a tai chi teacher whats the name of that technique and the fist poem. they freeze like deaf mute retard. because there is none, it came out of their ass. if a technique has no name and fist poem, its fake and gay.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

weird awkward scissor "uprooting" is not a real take down.

ask a tai chi teacher whats the name of that technique and the fist poem. they freeze like deaf mute retard. because there is none, it came out of their ass. if a technique has no name and fist poem, its fake and gay.

It's not awkward, actually. It's easy and works with little to no effort when done right (another hall mark of Taiji btw)

Who cares about the name and fist poem...if you can't put a skill into your own words, you don't know it.

[bawang]

Who cares about the name and fist poem...if you can't put a skill into your own words, you don't know it.

when you talk about magical kung fu story legend, its words words words, beebee baba boo boo. when it comes to facts, nothing.
its obvious your soul was never released from that cult. you crave tall tales and fantastical stories, you love not knowing.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

when you talk about magical kung fu story legend, its words words words, beebee baba boo boo. when it comes to facts, nothing. suddenly you don't want to talk no mo. you are lower than a wing chunner. at least wing chunners know their theory and concepts.

this guy was in a Korean martial art cult chung moo do and it fukted him up. he basically left the cult and bought some shaolin dvds and is now a "shaolin expert"

Are you still hung up on 1997? God, this forum was still KFO back then...and I had been out of the moo for 5 or 6 years at that point. It's 2013 already...

Now, for the magical kung fu legends...I never said anything about them. It is YOU who keep bringing magical legends up and all that.

I have been describing actual techniques and how they are performed as well as the differences between them and Shuia Jiao.

As for your Shaolin DVD comment...if you ever get the GPS in your helicopter to work, I am still waiting in the park for you. it would be fun to see the look on your face when you suddenly realize my "Push hands" is not a DVD.

[bawang]

Now, for the magical kung fu legends...I never said anything about them. It is YOU who keep bringing magical legends up and all that.

the song dynasty boot knife is complete bullsh1t. it came out of your ass. the tai chi scissor uproot is also completely fabricated.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

the song dynasty boot knife is complete bullsh1t. it came out of your ass.

Well then, why don't you give us a history lesson on the usage and historical applications of the boot knife? because as far as I know it was a military weapon of last resort, long before it was a village weapon. This goes back to before the existence of Shaolin even....to a time when Shuai Jiao was all there was...

[bawang]

Well then, why don't you give us a history lesson on the usage and historical applications of the boot knife? because as far as I know it was a military weapon of last resort, long before it was a village weapon. This goes back to before the existence of Shaolin even....to a time when Shuai Jiao was all there was...

you just said "Who cares about the name and fist poem". you don't give a monkey about facts and history. anything goes.

[RD'S Alias - 1A]

you just said "Who cares about the name and fist poem". you don't give a monkey about facts and history. anything goes.

The name and the poem are irrelevant to the usage of the physical movement. You can call it whatever you like, so long as you can use it and can describe it. I can, and I have.

So, whens the history lesson? Or does your historical knowledge base end with Sunday morning Shaw Bros movies about Wong Fei Hong and various Ching dynasty shenanigans?

[bawang]

The name and the poem are irrelevant to the usage of the physical movement. You can call it whatever you like, so long as you can use it and can describe it. I can, and I have.

you said that dry hump scissor move is special unique trait in tai chi. the move doesn't exist, its made up, its worthless. that means you are wrong, your knowledge of tai chi is worthless.

So, whens the history lesson? Or does your historical knowledge base end with Sunday morning Shaw Bros movies about Wong Fei Hong and various Ching dynasty shenanigans?

i have 2500 page song dynasty essentials of warmaking. you don't have what it takes to be a kung fu expert. you a youtube expert.