Rooftop Matches

[lkfmdc]

yihe rebels practiced meihua quan and hong quan. the"spirit boxing" was westerners trying to descrbie hard qigong.

don't try to troll someone with a master's in Chinese history from the Elliott School

"spirit boxing" was NOT hard chi kung and there was a huge component of it in the boxer movement. Extremely well documented in precise detail thanks to Escherwick

[bawang]

superstition and spirit posession was a common part of old chinese martial arts. its different from actually scamming people and not teaching them how to properly fight.

if you are knowledgable in chinese history then you should know all upper leaders of yihetuan were students of meihua and hongquan.

[lkfmdc]

superstition and spirit posession was a common part of old chinese martial arts. its different from actually scamming people and not teaching them how to properly fight.

but that is EXACTLY what they did

[bawang]

boxer rebels killed thousands and thousands of people. i dont see how they were scammed.



first you trivilialize the imperial martial exam, then you ridicule the last largest martial rebellion. you are trying to justify how guangdong kung fu never did anythign anywhere.

[lkfmdc]

seriously, now you are just trolling and totally derailing a good thread

[bawang]

i am being serious. you just have problem taking criticism about cantonese kung fu.

one moment you make kung fu seem useless, you dont even train or teach forms. the next moment you get sensitive about the most shady region in china. i reallly dont get it.


i am not derailing this thread. this thread is about the rooftop matches in hongkong. i am trying to explain the mentality behind the people that filmed those slap fights. that it lies deep in the cantonese psyche.

[Snipsky]

Do you guys really think people buy all of this?

[taai gihk yahn]

dunno...some people think true2form is Kung-Fu.

clearly it is not...


...STEP!

[YouKnowWho]

dunno...some people think true2form is Kung-Fu.

You sure can fool your opponent big time. When you post a Taiji "white crane flip wings", the moment that your opponent started to laught at you, the moment that you move in and knock your opponent down with one punch. It's a good strategy even Bruce Lee used it in "Return The Dragon" movie (at 1.14).

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9OTo3nqKqfY

[Frost]

dunno...some people think true2form is Kung-Fu.

ok so where are the good fight clips that show true TCMA in action?

[Frost]

read or re-read my two posts, and if we get a good discussion going I'll continue my point

please continue it,

[bawang]

this is guangdong, the ass end middle of nowhere in china. they have a monopoly on american kung fu. it is not representative of chinese martial arts.

those hongkong rooftop guys means nothing, their action changs nothing.

[Mulong]

It is hard to define what happened to CMA fighting prowess in first decades of 20’s century; it is it possible that Jingwu’s view point of wushu as a recreational activity affected the pugilistic scope of wushu?

It seems that Goushu tried to rectified this problem by focusing on reaction skills, e.g., boxing, shuaijiao, tuishou, etc.; however, it seemed it was a bit to late to undo the damage.

[bawang]

It is hard to define what happened to CMA fighting prowess in first decades of 20’s century; it is it possible that Jingwu’s view point of wushu as a recreational activity affected the pugilistic scope of wushu?

It seems that Goushu tried to rectified this problem by focusing on recreational skills, e.g., boxing, shuaijiao, tuishou, etc.; however, it seemed it was a bit to late to undo the damage.

the biggest damage were the movies. they plant powerful false images inside peoples minds

[Mulong]

Indeed bawang, but that came later down the road...