Baji

[Hendrik]

I lost my cherry a couple of weeks back.

Fought Leitai.

A couple of my best moments:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=APqBOL3Sn04

The rules are spelled out in the description of the full fight:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obPaAcbW8fc

great job. you must be having fun.

[omarthefish]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dn0...eature=related

I used to take issue with parts of his form performances but his applications are on the money!

First clip I've seen to really go into the tree training we do.

[Hardwork108]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dn0...eature=related

I used to take issue with parts of his form performances but his applications are on the money!

First clip I've seen to really go into the tree training we do.

And that tree never had a chance against the master...

Seriously, I really enjoyed that video clip and many thanks for posting.

Bajiquan has always fascinated me and I wish that I will be fortunate enough to train this style some time in the future. Meanwhile, I wish you good training.

[IronFist]

I can honestly say I've never seen anything like that before.

Interesting video!

Do you have any more vids showing training/applications?

[omarthefish]

What I had seen of his some years back was this one:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAwODk2OTI0.html

I thought it was pretty cool but not as interesting as the one's on youtube because it just looks like pretty standard Sanda stuff to me. "Just" is not meant to be dismissive of the training. It's good training, just particularly interesting to me. It's the same thing you can find at pretty much any decent Chinese Sanda camp.

I also was familiar with this Baji clip of his:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAwOTAzMjA0.html

It shows really good fa-jin but I have problems with his stances and could never relate anything in that form to the fight stuff he's doing in the other clip. I consider that thing he does where his rear shoulder is always held much higher and he kind of leans forward into things to be a big no-no, especially holding the rear elbow high. If it was just the shoulder I could justify it better. It would still be bad Baji but fighting wise there's plenty of reason for it. His stances are just too long, wide and deep for practical fighting.

So, in summary, while I could see he could both fight and do impressive forms, I didn't see any connection between the two. In these newer clips, the link between the traditional Baji training and the free-fighting skill is made clear.

[sanjuro_ronin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dn0...eature=related

I used to take issue with parts of his form performances but his applications are on the money!

First clip I've seen to really go into the tree training we do.

I think the tree won on that one.

I like this one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n2tZ-...eature=related

[IronFist]

What I had seen of his some years back was this one:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAwODk2OTI0.html

I thought it was pretty cool but not as interesting as the one's on youtube because it just looks like pretty standard Sanda stuff to me. "Just" is not meant to be dismissive of the training. It's good training, just particularly interesting to me. It's the same thing you can find at pretty much any decent Chinese Sanda camp.

Agreed.

I also was familiar with this Baji clip of his:

http://v.youku.com/v_show/id_XMTAwOTAzMjA0.html

It shows really good fa-jin but I have problems with his stances and could never relate anything in that form to the fight stuff he's doing in the other clip. I consider that thing he does where his rear shoulder is always held much higher and he kind of leans forward into things to be a big no-no, especially holding the rear elbow high. If it was just the shoulder I could justify it better. It would still be bad Baji but fighting wise there's plenty of reason for it. His stances are just too long, wide and deep for practical fighting.

So, in summary, while I could see he could both fight and do impressive forms, I didn't see any connection between the two. In these newer clips, the link between the traditional Baji training and the free-fighting skill is made clear.

Only in China can someone be outside throwing themselves up against a tree and not have other people stopping and staring like it's a weird thing to do

[SPJ]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=47dn0...eature=related

I used to take issue with parts of his form performances but his applications are on the money!

First clip I've seen to really go into the tree training we do.

yes ba ji stressing kao.

shoulder, chest, back hip/butt etc etc.

we also practice forearm kao, too.

it is important for us to practice

so that we may kao da and kao shuai by positioning close and closer.

ai bang ji kao etc.

[bawang]

I can honestly say I've never seen anything like that before.

Interesting video!

Do you have any more vids showing training/applications?

didnt you say you trained 10 years of tai chi? in tai chi you also do this.

[-N-]

We train those on a heavy bag and on the steel poles at the local basketball court.

[IronFist]

didnt you say you trained 10 years of tai chi? in tai chi you also do this.

No, I said I've heard tai chi people say that it takes 10 years to become able to fight with tai chi (I guess by that time you've cultivated your qi enough to withstand any attacks and kill people with a single strike of your qi-infused fist or palm).

[bawang]

No, I said I've heard tai chi people say that it takes 10 years to become able to fight with tai chi (I guess by that time you've cultivated your qi enough to withstand any attacks and kill people with a single strike of your qi-infused fist or palm).

oh ok, sorry , my bad.

but my point stands, even yang style sell out family tai chi do this kind of training closed doors. but you can only find it on chinese youtube.

[Faruq]

This clips are great. Tiger on Duty from the old MSN Bak Mei forums used to talk about Baji, but the only clips I found back then were of stuff I could never imagine being used in actual combat. These clips are great! Know I can appreciate Baji! I don't know if they could could compete with the Chen Tai Chi guys, but at least now I can understand it being a real combat art. Hats off to the guy in the clip.

[EarthDragon]

Your thoughts?

[ginosifu]

Sifu Tony Yang teaches it here in the area. Never did like how the forms moved, so I never expressed an interest.

ginosifu