Could somebody please tell me at what point of my conversion into MMA I lost the ability to bite, eye gouge or swift kick to nutsack? I mean I still chew my food so my jaws work. And I kicked a dude in the cajones the other day in sparring by accident. I think I could probably do it intentionally as well if I wanted. I can stick a finger in my own eye. I think it would move just as easily into someone else's.
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i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.
-Charles Manson
I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.
- Shonie Carter
The simple answer is that you haven't but you fall into a mindset when you train mma/ sport fighting. You have to spend some time training these things to bring them back out. It's not that mma lacks the tool kit to fight on the street efficiently. It is just making sure that when you are on the street that you pull out the right set of tools for the job.
Incorrect understanding of how to properly construct a bil jee or any eye gouge and apply it. you should have no problem hitting a hard surface.
Edit:
The Bil Jee is thrown in a manner akin to the flicker jab in boxing. Moreover, the bil jee is constructed so that the fingers are curled and collapse when they hit a solid surface. As stated above, if you were taught to throw a bil jee so that it pierces a rmellon, you were shown incorrectly.
Last edited by HumbleWCGuy; 07-29-2010 at 08:30 PM.
I quit after getting my first black belt because the school I was a part of was in the process of lowering their standards A painfully honest KC Elbows
The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.
Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.
DM
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I quit after getting my first black belt because the school I was a part of was in the process of lowering their standards A painfully honest KC Elbows
The crap that many schools do is not the crap I was taught or train in or teach.
Dam nit... it made sense when it was running through my head.
DM
People love Iron Crotch. They can't get enough Iron Crotch. We all ride the Iron Crotch for the exposure. Gene
Find the safety flaw in the training. Rory Miller.
That's funny because every fight I ever got into prior to any sort of MA training, I pretty much had no trouble kicking someone in the nuts. I even hit a couple with chairs in school. So what you're saying is that the culmination of street defense focused traditional martial arts are centered around training techniques I have been successfully employing since 2nd grade recess?
This isn't about TMA. Where did I mention TMA except to make the point that this discussion has nothing to do with TMA? People would like it to be about TMA versus MMA /sport so that there can be some debate about alive training versus forms versus blah blah blah. This ain't that debate.
Just for clarification, did you have credible knife defense in second grade? Were you training day in and day out with rules that forebode the use of groin kicks, chairs, or biting? In second grade, did you understand the legalities of when to use a chair? Did you go through some scenarios of how to put a stop to a fight before the opponent even gets going? Is your school running over these scenarios now or do you just figure that you have it because you have been in enough scrapes? Do you have an innate ability to defend against multiple attackers.
Last edited by HumbleWCGuy; 07-29-2010 at 09:32 PM.
I really don’t see your point now what schools do offer this training?
Apart from JKD real street fighting schools and those schools like krav maga etc....I never got anything like this from my old TMA school so maybe we should start a thread about how they lack these things....I did do knife work in my TCMA classes but it sucked and would likely get me killed if I used it, same with the multiple opponents stuff, why because none of it was pressured tested it was nearly all complaint walk through stuff, we never went really hard or tried to hurt each other.
Interestingly a lot of the JKD guys moved AWAY from this kind of training towards a more sports based approach, believing it was healthier and prepared them for real life confrontations better (matt Thornton, Paul Sharp, Burt Richardson the singer brothers etc)
The best knife defence work I have ever seen didn’t come from a TMA or a Filipino school, it comes from a Greco roman wrestler and BJJ black belt who gave up JKD and Filipino knife stuff AFTER being stabbed by multiple opponents and developed a programme based around controlling the knife arm and the opponent using his sport grappling skills
Myself included in that, I never really got any weapons training in TCMA and the stuff I was shown was total crap. The best stuff I recieved for knife/weapons was from a Judo instructor. He taught a lot of restrains and controlling movements in clinch for knife work. His stuff was top notch.The best knife defence work I have ever seen didn’t come from a TMA or a Filipino school, it comes from a Greco roman wrestler and BJJ black belt who gave up JKD and Filipino knife stuff AFTER being stabbed by multiple opponents and developed a programme based around controlling the knife arm and the opponent using his sport grappling skills
Originally posted by BawangOriginally posted by Bawangi had an old taichi lady talk smack behind my back. i mean comon man, come on. if it was 200 years ago,, mebbe i wouldve smacked her and took all her monehs.i am manly and strong. do not insult me cracker.