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    so if oklahoma starts a war of insurrection and loses, what happens then?

    It would appear to me that these folks simply don't understand the democratic process and want to be dictatorial and instead of working within the democratic process,they want to step outside of it and force their ways onto everyone else.

    there was a vote, the vote passed, the end. that's democracy.

    what's not to get here?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Reality_Check View Post
    Except a good chunk of that majority didn't think the bill went far enough.
    We shall see in November.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SanHeChuan View Post
    How would a militia help defend state sovereignty without the use of force?
    You don't have to defend if you are not attacked.
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    It would appear to me that these folks simply don't understand the democratic process and want to be dictatorial and instead of working within the democratic process,they want to step outside of it and force their ways onto everyone else.
    So what laws are they trying to get on the books through use of force?

    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    there was a vote, the vote passed, the end. that's democracy.

    what's not to get here?
    And these people are trying to get the State Legislature to vote on this. So why is a vote/election good in one instance, but not in this instance?
    When given the choice between big business and big government, choose big business. Big business never threw millions of people into gas chambers, but big government did.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 1bad65 View Post
    You don't have to defend if you are not attacked.
    Why would the fed attack Oklahoma?
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    Quote Originally Posted by David Jamieson View Post
    so if oklahoma starts a war of insurrection and loses, what happens then?

    It would appear to me that these folks simply don't understand the democratic process and want to be dictatorial and instead of working within the democratic process,they want to step outside of it and force their ways onto everyone else.

    there was a vote, the vote passed, the end. that's democracy.

    what's not to get here?
    Actually a true war of insurrection is vanishingly unlikely. What is much more possible is a scenario in which Oklahoma or some other area of the US basically go into "we ain't gonna do that" mode.. where various attempts at frustration, stonewalling, etc. happen.

    Less probable than that is a two-sided low level hostility, where certain areas go into "we ain't gonna do that" mode and then the Fed calls their bluff and starts using all discretionary powers short of martial law and sending in the troops to put them down.

    Some possibilities for the Fed..
    1.) Stop federal payouts to all Oklahoma state entities.
    2.) Install state border checkpoints.
    3.) Tell USDOT to begin "aggressive" logistics and transportation management (i.e. make life hell for anyone who wants to drive semi trucks into or especially through Oklahoma)
    4.) Deny federal contracts to all companies domiciled in the problem area.
    5.) Stop payouts for pensions, Social Security etc. to persons who have them deposited in an Oklahoma bank account.

    Lots of things. I'm sure the bright boys at the Fed could think of quite a few more if the political will was there to do it.
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