Quote Originally Posted by MysteriousPower View Post
I was talking about nei gong from a physical cultivation which also leads to health spiritual cultivation. Spiritual cultivation and health qi gong will not necessarily develop a strong body but a strong body will lead to the other two.

Visualization is not something that was invented in the east and given to the west. They took what humans already naturally do(using their imagination) and turned it into guided excercises. And now people sell it as something different and better when it is just more of the same. Do you honestly believe that Europeans, before meeting the Chinese and Indians(from India), never used visualization? They just ran blindly into battle? They just haphazardly built buildings without visualizing them first? If you do some special tantric whatever that is fine but d no build it up to be better or worse than anything else.
I think you may be missing the point, which is that thsse things ARE PART of TCMA and part, typically, of neigong.
And they were applied to MA in the east before they became "trendy" in modern sports.