Lets talk speed and combos

[sanjuro_ronin]

Everyone likes to think they are fast
And we see quite a bit of clips and demos of speed on things that DON'T hit back, but what about speed and combos VS someone actually fighting back?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URyaq...feature=relmfu

[Lucas]

gotta love sugars combination of fast hands and quick footwork

[mickey]

Greetings,

Looking at the clip, most of the speed boxers were also offensive fighters. Their opponents were not always answering back punch for punch. What is important to note is their positioning, sensitivity, timing, and ability to adapt fluidly to gates/targets that open and close. There were many instances where the attacker was vulnerable, just like some poor guy in some mcdojo who is putting a hurtin' on the guy in a bow stance holding his punching arm straight out, locked. The difference being the boxer's ability to adjust and deal with what may come his way.

mickey

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by mickey

Greetings,

Looking at the clip, most of the speed boxers were also offensive fighters. Their opponents were not always answering back punch for punch. What is important to note is their positioning, sensitivity, timing, and ability to adapt fluidly to gates/targets that open and close. There were many instances where the attacker was vulnerable, just like some poor guy in some mcdojo who is putting a hurtin' on the guy in a bow stance holding his punching arm straight out, locked. The difference being the boxer's ability to adjust and deal with what may come his way.

mickey

Most of those opponents were top 5 ranked and most were championship fights.
They weren't hitting back because they couldn't, not because they weren't "allowed" to.

[Pork Chop]

Gonna have to watch that one for later.
Other than Sugar Ray Leonard & Sugar Ray Robinson, you may want to check out Meldrick Taylor.
Before the Chavez fight, that guy was FAST.
Also check out vintage Roy Jones if you haven't already.

For foot speed and/or defense, see Willie Pep, Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker, and Benny Leonard. All 3 of those guys are virtuosos.

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by Pork Chop

Gonna have to watch that one for later.
Other than Sugar Ray Leonard & Sugar Ray Robinson, you may want to check out Meldrick Taylor.
Before the Chavez fight, that guy was FAST.
Also check out vintage Roy Jones if you haven't already.

For foot speed and/or defense, see Willie Pep, Pernell "Sweet Pea" Whitaker, and Benny Leonard. All 3 of those guys are virtuosos.

It would have been nice to see RJJ fight someone that REALLY pushed him in his prime.
Such is life though.

[GlennR]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

Everyone likes to think they are fast
And we see quite a bit of clips and demos of speed on things that DON'T hit back, but what about speed and combos VS someone actually fighting back?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=URyaq...feature=relmfu

Clinch and hang on for grim death