its really simple

[Frost]

so the past three weeks i haven't lifted at all, due to holidays work and illness.

Made it back today and decided to test my deadlift and bench max's, deadlifts started at 120kg due to not wanting to strip the bar of the clubs 50kg plates (big mistake), worked up to 190kg sumo style, my previous PB, failed 200 three times which really annoyed me, so i asked the gym owner and current master 3 world record holder what i could do to bring my lift up (was thinking rack pulls, cycling lifts ala westside, good mornings box squats etc) he just looked at me and said, "start by coming down more often" Then suggested deadlifting heavy twice a week as well as doing heavy hard wide stance box squats on another day.......simple heavy hard work several times a week, hard to argue with him really and makes it all so simple

Bench worked up to 130kg for a single 5kg less than my PB but shoulder injury felt very good

Also cheered up by the fact everyone else was having trouble deadlifting with the 50kg plates on the bar

So not too bad a day, equalled my DL PB and almost equalled my bench, and some insightful tips from a world class powerlifter about keeping things simple......sometimes i do tend to over think things lol

[sanjuro_ronin]

Sometimes we forget the simplicty of progressive resistance training.

[Frost]

lol true, i also think people tend to forget that foten sheer will power and having good lifters around you is more important than the method you use

[sanjuro_ronin]

1Lb a month = 12 lbs in on year.
May not seem like much but that is a difference between a 390 DL and a over 400lbs DL.
Regardless of what method you may use, if you are increasing poundage you are getting stronger.

[Drake]

There may be something to this lifting of heavy stuff...

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by Drake

There may be something to this lifting of heavy stuff...

I hear that people that lift heavy stuff get stronger and can lift heavy stuff, weird eh?

[IronFist]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

i hear that people that lift heavy stuff get stronger and can lift heavy stuff, weird eh?

WRONG!!! LIFTING WAITS MAKES U SLOW AND INFLEXIBLE! YOU DON'T NEED MUSCLES U JUST USE YOUR OPPONENETS STRENGTH AGAINST HIM! LIFT WITH YOUR TENDONS NOT YOUR MUSCLES!!! ALL U NEED IS HORSE STANCE FOR 20 MINUTES A DAY IT GIVES YOU ROOT AND YOUR OPPONENT CANNOT MOVE U!!!! ALSO DO UR FORMS REALLY SLOW IT MAKES U STRONG.

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[Drake]

Originally Posted by IronFist

WRONG!!! LIFTING WAITS MAKES U SLOW AND INFLEXIBLE! YOU DON'T NEED MUSCLES U JUST USE YOUR OPPONENETS STRENGTH AGAINST HIM! LIFT WITH YOUR TENDONS NOT YOUR MUSCLES!!! ALL U NEED IS HORSE STANCE FOR 20 MINUTES A DAY IT GIVES YOU ROOT AND YOUR OPPONENT CANNOT MOVE U!!!! ALSO DO UR FORMS REALLY SLOW IT MAKES U STRONG.

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Yeah! The Chinese were wrong. You don't need to spend months lifting heavy things, building cardio, and getting strong! Just learn these forms, which were originally only a hair of a fraction of what the training originally was, and you'll be fine!

[IronFist]

Originally Posted by Drake

Yeah! The Chinese were wrong. You don't need to spend months lifting heavy things, building cardio, and getting strong! Just learn these forms, which were originally only a hair of a fraction of what the training originally was, and you'll be fine!

If any one who trained forms entered MMA he would win every fight. Forms contain all the secrets.

Oh wait, I forgot... that kind of stuff is too deadly for the ring.

I guess it's back to lifting weights and doing not-too-deadly-for-the-ring MMA training.

[Drake]

Originally Posted by sanjuro_ronin

I hear that people that lift heavy stuff get stronger and can lift heavy stuff, weird eh?

And check this out. I found when I run harder than what I am used to, it gets easier, and I can run even faster!

[sanjuro_ronin]

Originally Posted by Drake

And check this out. I found when I run harder than what I am used to, it gets easier, and I can run even faster!

Now that's just crazy talk !

[IronFist]

Originally Posted by Frost

so the past three weeks i haven't lifted at all, due to holidays work and illness.

Made it back today and decided to test my deadlift and bench max's, deadlifts started at 264.55 pounds due to not wanting to strip the bar of the clubs 110.23 lbs plates (big mistake), worked up to 418.8 lbs sumo style, my previous PB, failed 440.92 lbs three times which really annoyed me, so i asked the gym owner and current master 3 world record holder what i could do to bring my lift up (was thinking rack pulls, cycling lifts ala westside, good mornings box squats etc) he just looked at me and said, "start by coming down more often" Then suggested deadlifting heavy twice a week as well as doing heavy hard wide stance box squats on another day.......simple heavy hard work several times a week, hard to argue with him really and makes it all so simple

Bench worked up to 286.6 lbs for a single 11 lbs less than my PB but shoulder injury felt very good

Also cheered up by the fact everyone else was having trouble deadlifting with the 110.23 lb plates on the bar

So not too bad a day, equalled my DL PB and almost equalled my bench, and some insightful tips from a world class powerlifter about keeping things simple......sometimes i do tend to over think things lol

I translated your post into American so it makes sense to me

How much do you weigh?

[Frost]

Originally Posted by IronFist

I translated your post into American so it makes sense to me

How much do you weigh?

about 220pounds at the moment, so like i said really bad figures, going to really hit the powerlifting this year to try to increase

[IronFist]

Originally Posted by Frost

about 220pounds at the moment, so like i said really bad figures, going to really hit the powerlifting this year to try to increase

So you were going for a double bw deadlift. That's not bad. I've only done a double bw deadlift twice (that's on two separate occasions, 1 rep each time) and I weighed 162 lbs at the time.

[bawang]

im jealous of you guys strong. i wish ican squat 300 pounds. but i would probbaly blow out my colon.

i never squatted in my life, then 4 months before i started squatting, i almsot reach magical 200 pounds, then i get the diarhea disease from chicago sichuan restaurant. now i deload and start over.