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    Actually Merrry, I mostly agree with Ginger, of course it's always nice to know my Shifu can switch tech whenever I resist or try the counter.
    On top of that, most of those people couldn't wipe their butt without directions, and they'd still probably get half way through when they realized they'd used the directions to do it.
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    Stacey Guest
    My style doesn't have all the answers.


    I do, my style points the way.

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    maybe i should add these to my quotes...?

    To have all the answers means to know all the questions! Who knows all the questions ? The best thing IMO is to sharpen your tool or style to the point that you dont have to answer!...You ask questions! (Old jong)

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  4. #34

    old jong

    To have all the answers means to know all the questions! Who knows all the questions ?

    --no it doesn't ... it means exactly ? it says ... until the ? is asked the answer remains quiet

    The best thing IMO is to sharpen your tool or style to the point that you dont have to answer!

    --close but not right ... hone ur abilities 2 a level that the ? is made irrelevant

    ...You ask questions!

    --in a fight ... never ask a ? that u don't all ready know the answer 2

  5. #35

    merry pukester

    Ginger Fist--thanks for another particularly unenlightening post.

    --it's unenlightening to u becuz u r dumber than pig cr*ap

    By the way, your tendency to use numbers and your lack of both punctuation and capitalization make it hard to read what little you have to say.

    --btw tuff sh*it ... i prefer jerk off know nothings like u kept in the dark ... with ur head up ur as*s all the time u should like it there

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    It is the truly wise man, who admits he does not have the answer to everything.

    Or something to that effect.
    -I hate mankind, for I think myself one of the best of them, and I know how bad I am.

    -The greatest pleasure in life is doing what people say you cannot do

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    robbie

    Actually Merrry, I mostly agree with Ginger, of course it's always nice to know my Shifu can switch tech whenever I resist or try the counter.

    --ur shifu has the answers becuz he knows where 2 look ... good 4 him & good 4 u if u stay with him ... betcha if u break movement on him from the same 1st move 3 times in a row he gives u a different answer every time ... try it & then ask urself y & how

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    Dark Knight

    "Oh yes, mine does, since I'm a begginer, but maybe in a distant future, things change... "

    Why do you think it does? and why a distant future and not a near future?
    As I said, I'm a beginner, therefore I don't know ALL the questions! And I said "distant future" because that's when I won't be a beginner anymore

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    Thumbs up

    because it's business in the front and party in the back.
    Good one Stranger, you have captured the very essence of mulletude!

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    you guys are teasing me with all this talk of beer and rotting fetuses.

    ... it just aint right.
    where's my beer?

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    stacey

    My style doesn't have all the answers. I do, my style points the way.

    --100% correct ... go2 the head of the class

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    for les paul

    okay, i'm back to thinking that ginger fist is a clown. shame, that.


    les paul,

    i don't think that 'jack of all trades, master of none' thing makes much sense, honestly.

    the strength of that argument is based on the idea that focusing on one thing will yield more insight than trying to focus on many things, right? that your effort is concentrated rather than dispersed.

    but the counter to that argument is to ask, "what do you do when you're faced with a situation for which you haven't trained?" for instance, you're faced with a knife or you get taken down in a crowd and you're on your back. what happens then.

    lots of people say that their style is complete. that it covers grappling, kicking, punching, weapons, and so on. and i'm not going to dispute that. who am i to say what your style does and does not address.

    but if your style covers that much ground, then you personally are learning striking, grappling, weapons, and so on. so your concentration is dispersed between several areas of expertise that are, by definition, different from one another.

    given that fact, what's the real difference between studying a style that's complete and crosstraining? in either case, you're asked to reconcile seemingly different ideas into a coherent whole. the differences, to me, will be in terms of customs, terminology, and that sort of thing.

    i'm sure it's true that if you concentrate solely on punching for your whole MA career, you'll be a very good puncher. but if you plan to have a wider base of skills than that, then one way or another, your attention will be dispersed. and that poses the same problems for anyone, whether crosstrainer or no.

    note that there's a difference between crosstraining and dabbling. as obvious and relevant a difference as there is between good TCMA and a mckwoon.


    stuart b.

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    Apoweyn makes some very good points.

    I think another factor , a plus for crosstraining (I hate that term, BTW, you train to fight, period, and that covers all ranges), is that it can increase your effective ability in other skills. Using the example of the punching specialist, there are many examples (esp in the erly days of MMA) of great punchers getting nuetralized very quickly by grapplers. Lately, what youre seeing are a lot of great countergrapplers who are able to punch effectively against good wrestlers., but this requires a ceretain skill in grappling to achieve.
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    Stacey Guest
    get on your knees and lick my power bundle.

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    GunnedDownAtrocity has the right of it - "...it's important, no matter what style you do, that you are able to improvise for the things you weren't directly prepared for."

    That's the heart of it and (to me) that's what it means to have a "complete" system. No system can think, in advance, of EVERY possible situation you might be in BUT if you can improvise to meet the situation in which you find yourself then you do have all the answers.

    You just can't answer them until they are asked (ie. until you are in some situation and you find a way out of it).



    Oh, one other thing..."get on your knees and lick my power bundle." - Stacey - I Love You!!!!!
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