Long and short range Tan Sao

[Vajramusti]

In this video I show how the Tan Sao is applied in long and short ranges, and the concept of the short and long range Tan Sao as used in Wing Chun.

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Apparently in your wing chun. Your so called long tan sao IMO is not really a tansao
and it is over reaching. Possible witha much smaller person ina demo.

[stonecrusher69]

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Apparently in your wing chun. Your so called long tan sao IMO is not really a tansao
and it is over reaching. Possible witha much smaller person ina demo.

You have a myopic view of what you think Tan sao is.

[YouKnowWho]

I like your long Tan Shou principle. The reason is simple. If you can extend your hand closer to your opponent's face, you are fighting in his territory and you are not fighting in your own territory. This is the opposite of the boxing guard that you try to use your arms to protect your own head.

- Your "long Tan Shou",
- my "rhino guard", and
- the old man's "zombie arms",

all use similar concept.

[stonecrusher69]

I like your long Tan Shou principle. The reason is simple. If you can extend your hand closer to your opponent's face, you are fighting in his territory and you are not fighting in your own territory. This is the opposite of the boxing guard that you try to use your arms to protect your own head.

- Your "long Tan Shou",
- my "rhino guard", and
- the old man's "zombie arms",

all use similar concept.

Thanks..".fighting in there space not yours" I like that..

[YouKnowWho]

Thanks..".fighting in there space not yours" I like that..

In some of Muhammad Ali's fights, he liked to extend his left arm, put his left glove right in front of his opponent's face and ready to punch his opponent with his right hand. His left hand not only blocked his opponent's view, it also forced his opponent to cover his face and played defense.

This concept is used in both boxing and football.

[stonecrusher69]

In some of Muhammad Ali's fights, he liked to extend his left arm, put his left glove right in front of his opponent's face and ready to punch his opponent with his right hand. His left hand not only blocked his opponent's view, it also forced his opponent to cover his face and played defense.

This concept is used in both boxing and football.

it's like putting up a wall in front of your opponent.

[boxerbilly]

SC,

Please continue to decipher. Certainly you will get this is wrong, that's not what we do. You are violating this or that. From their point of view they may in fact be correct. But from your point of view you are correct. Both sides will have reason why that is so. I appreciate you taking the time to demonstrate and explain with your videos.

[JPinAZ]

In some of Muhammad Ali's fights, he liked to extend his left arm, put his left glove right in front of his opponent's face and ready to punch his opponent with his right hand. His left hand not only blocked his opponent's view, it also forced his opponent to cover his face and played defense.

Ali had great results with doing this, and was one of the greatest fighters of all time as he also regularly boasted - and rightly so!
Unfortunately, this 'technique' has little-to-nothing to do with WC's tan sau concept.

[YouKnowWho]

Unfortunately, this 'technique' has little-to-nothing to do with WC's tan sau concept.

The WC Tan Shou is quite unique. It doesn't exist in may other CMA systems such as long fist, praying mantis, Baji, Taiji, XingYi, ... The Tan Shou by itself drew my interest into WC many years ago.

To me, the concept of Tan Shou is to

1. extend my left arm between my opponent's right arm and his head.
2. extend my right arm between his left arm and his head.



If I can do

- 1, I can separate his right arm away from his body.
- 2, I can separate his left arm away from his body.

If I can do both 1 and 2, I can "separate" both of his arms away from his body and "occupy his center".