only in mma would you be caught with such a punch anywhere else i'd be ashamed to be hit by such a long swinging punch
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only in mma would you be caught with such a punch anywhere else i'd be ashamed to be hit by such a long swinging punch
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esox and fei li....let's see the clips of you fighting other world class fighters. Don't be shy. share them with us.
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If you know the purpose of the technique, then it makes sense. If you don't, then it looks like a wide, predictable swing...
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Sow Choy's if done right can leave you in a world of trouble. don't EVER underestimate it.only in mma would you be caught with such a punch anywhere else i'd be ashamed to be hit by such a long swinging punch
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if you have never trained to use the sow choy....you can only speculate about its effectiveness. however, hung gar, wing chun, and other systems that i've shown the sow choy to....or how we use our sow choy.....left them ALL with a different APPRECIATION for it. but, hey, its not your thing. its cool. I hope you never get hit with one though.I just have to admit that I really don't get those long techniques
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Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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this thread is a GREAT example of what I was just saying in the "Reality in TCMA - MIA" thread!
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周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
Sow Choy is STILL effective though. PERIOD.this thread is a GREAT example of what I was just saying in the "Reality in TCMA - MIA" thread!
If the sow choy was ineffective in combat, it would have been left out, or evolved into something else. but i know from my own experience many people don't understand it.
i'm happy i come from one of those chinatown schools. im confident in our material and how we use it.
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Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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Yeah I can accept that and you're right I've tried those styles and they're not for me so i'll not pretend to be knowledgeable in that area, it's just that coming from a background of styles that aim to be standing on ya toes I just wonder how those long techniques are that effective outside of competition fighting.
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In the past, the sow choy has been responsible for the breakage of necks in real life combat. See, if you practice the LONG techniques long enough you'll come to know them pretty well. inside and out. you'll know that for one, there's a time to use them and a time NOT to use them. same thing goes for a kicker. a kicker would never kick you while you're fresh and able to reverse the damage on you.
There is a saying in my branch about training the long techniques to have stronger shorter ones.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
周洪龍 金山鴻勝武舘 - 鴻勝佛家正宗
in reality, what we're talking about here is ONE SINGLE TCMA technique. its only one. not the whole system.
Hung Sing Boyz, we gottit on lock down
when he's around quick to ground and pound a clown
Bruh we thought you knew better
when it comes to head huntin, ain't no one can do it better
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yeah good explanation I'll try my ****dest to keep an open mind, I think much comes down to body shape and mind set I come from a background of western boxing prior to kung fu and I prefer tight, short aggressive forward moving techniques
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One "trick" in Thai Boxing is to strike with the bony part of the wrist because if it lands it's easier to secure a KO blow with it. Like a sau choy basically.
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I agree. It is a difficult one to block if you are caught in range and the punch is in full swing, as it can easily collapse one's structure and/or break a blocking limb, on contact.
HW108
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Some years ago I was shown a version of that punch where it is preceded by a swinging uppercut style kung fu punch and another which I cannot recall. I know that it was within the context of a very fast three punch, forward moving, continuous combination. This was just a quick demonstration of a hybrid, yet genuine, kung fu style.
I remember that it was kind of overwhelming as the perceived opening one would expect from such a wide punch were not there, as the previous two punches had closed the "opportunities", as if setting up the opponent for a haymaker.
Is this the purpose of the technique as studied by you?
Anyway, as I saw it, it functioned in a very effective manner. I am relatively new at the current style that I practice but I suspect that I will be introduced to similar techniques as the system has a long range feel to it as compared to the Chow Gar and Wing Chun, in which I have more experience.
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Wow, HW, sounds like you were shown some Lama (Kahp Pow Chyunn, or a variation of such), not a 'hybrid'. Something your friend David Ross knows a little about... But wait - he's a glorified kickboxer! You learned Glorified Kickboxing!
Haha you're a glorified kickboxer HW!
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The sifu who showed (not taught) it did not describe it as Lama Pai, where similar techniques exist. He mentioned a hybrid style and even named it, however I don't remember the actual name.
HIs "little" knowledge can be seen in his one and only post in this thread, meaning that knowing a "little" doesn't count!
However, I know for sure that Grand Master Chan Tai San knew a lot about such techniques, but then he was an authentic kung fu master.
Yes he is a glorified Kickboxer, and one can see that from his chosen profession and again, from his own shallow, pompous, not to mention, mediocre, "contribution" to the subject matter of this very thread!
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