Quote Originally Posted by LFJ View Post
Hmm..

The Southern Song Dynasty ended in 1279. The Yuan Dynasty had begun in 1271. This would perhaps allow for the creation of Changhuxinyimenquan to have taken place in the "Song" period and use Li Sou's Laojia Hongquan as a template, assuming he was in Shaolin early enough in the 13th century.

But then there's the problem that Ji Longfeng lived between the years of 1588 and 1662. So how could a Song Dynasty (even if Southern Song) boxing set have been influenced by him?

Or are you suggesting, they edited the existing CHXYMQ to incorporate Xinyiquan elements?
When Ji and later his students went to Shaolin, they brought Xinyi Ba there and Spear there. There is a Shaolin published book from that time period that still exists that talks of this, with names and so on.

It would be logical that Xiao hong Quan and Luohan Quan were the base that Ji Long Feng's art was added to.

What we know of today as Changhuxinyimenquan was most likely redone in the Qing dynasty like the rest of the group of the famous Shaolin Quan sets. It is more likely that the original raw version of this set was first developed in the Song and then changed like all the other sets were in the Qing when there was the great revision that collected together the main sets that we know now.