Fa Kuen

[TenTigers]

any info on this set, or video footage? I see striking similarities between Jee Siem Weng Chun, Hakka Kuen, and Hung Kuen. I was wondering if there are similarities to SPM's Moi Fa Kuen.

[t_niehoff]

any info on this set, or video footage? I see striking similarities between Jee Siem Weng Chun, Hakka Kuen, and Hung Kuen. I was wondering if there are similarities to SPM's Moi Fa Kuen.

Similarities among southern fist methods? My God! That's amazing. You should pat yourself on the back for that insightful observation.

Jeez.

[First Blood]

ha ha you say that but its surprising how many people cant !

[Shadow_warrior8]

any info on this set, or video footage? I see striking similarities between Jee Siem Weng Chun, Hakka Kuen, and Hung Kuen. I was wondering if there are similarities to SPM's Moi Fa Kuen.

If you have seen footage of Jee Shim Weng Chun Fa Kuen, why dont you share it so we can all view? Must be good.

Fa Kuen, i have seen 1 wingchun lineage, combine Shil Lim Tao, with another extended form(extension of Shil Lim Tao), into the form Fa Kuen

What was interesting was it starting with standing on 1 leg and clapping the hands 3 times. The rest of the form showed elements from SLT and Extended SLT. It had no similarities to other forms of Hung Kuen etc...

[TenTigers]

Similarities among southern fist methods? My God! That's amazing. You should pat yourself on the back for that insightful observation.

Jeez.

Thanks for taking the time and thought to post that clever reply. I was specifically referring to those particular systems, and perhaps those particular sets.
If you feel the need to post, could you please find something meaningful to say, and contribute to the topic, rather than just posting childish sarcasm?

Jeez.

[TenTigers]

If you have seen footage of Jee Shim Weng Chun Fa Kuen, why dont you share it so we can all view? Must be good.

Fa Kuen, i have seen 1 wingchun lineage, combine Shil Lim Tao, with another extended form(extension of Shil Lim Tao), into the form Fa Kuen

What was interesting was it starting with standing on 1 leg and clapping the hands 3 times. The rest of the form showed elements from SLT and Extended SLT. It had no similarities to other forms of Hung Kuen etc...

no, I was asking if anyone here had any footage, as I had never seen it. I have seen bits and pieces of SPM's Moi Fa sao faht, and I am facinated by its fluidity, and intricate coiling movements.

[t_niehoff]

Thanks for taking the time and thought to post that clever reply. I was specifically referring to those particular systems, and perhaps those particular sets.
If you feel the need to post, could you please find something meaningful to say, and contribute to the topic, rather than just posting childish sarcasm?

Jeez.

I'm sorry. But when someone takes the time to point out that they recently noticed that all fish have gills and fins, I think sarcasm is an appropriate response (assuming, of course, the person making that observation isn't a small child or mentally challenged -- and I have taken it for granted that you are neither).

[TenTigers]

I'm sorry. But when someone takes the time to point out that they recently noticed that all fish have gills and fins, I think sarcasm is an appropriate response (assuming, of course, the person making that observation isn't a small child or mentally challenged -- and I have taken it for granted that you are neither).

I understand that, and for the record, I have been pointing out the similarities in these systems for over ten years now,on several different forums, and have actually recieved quite a bit of flak. Mostly from those "High up on the totem poles." -go figure.
Only recently, have people been in agreement.
I think that is most likely due to more Mainland Gung-Fu becoming available, coupled with a new generation that has a fresh approach-one of practicality-fighting, rather than relying on forms and two-man sets.

[Hendrik]

If you have seen footage of Jee Shim Weng Chun Fa Kuen, why dont you share it so we can all view? Must be good.

Fa Kuen, i have seen 1 wingchun lineage, combine Shil Lim Tao, with another extended form(extension of Shil Lim Tao), into the form Fa Kuen

What was interesting was it starting with standing on 1 leg and clapping the hands 3 times. The rest of the form showed elements from SLT and Extended SLT. It had no similarities to other forms of Hung Kuen etc...

There are different DNA is Set.

and from the set one can trace the source....

[paulus]

I'm sorry. But when someone takes the time to point out that they recently noticed that all fish have gills and fins, I think sarcasm is an appropriate response

You think it appropriate to be sarcastic when someone doesn't know something and simply asks for information? I've noticed these kind of responses happening a lot on this forum and I don't know what the reason is... It's a shame really, all these intelligent minds, this common interest we all have in WC/VT/whatever. This could be a really good place.

We shoudn't belittle each other like this. I've avoided posting here in the past for fear of being humiliated, and I wonder how many other newbs have too.

[punchdrunk]

Don't let people scare you from posting, almost everything here is tonge in cheek anyway. The silent majority would welcome and appreciate you.

[Matrix]

I'm sorry. But when someone takes the time to point out that they recently noticed that all fish have gills and fins, I think sarcasm is an appropriate response (assuming, of course, the person making that observation isn't a small child or mentally challenged -- and I have taken it for granted that you are neither).

Terence,
I know you're good, but maybe you could learn to resist attacking those of us whom you see as inferior. If the comments are that ridiculous, then just let them go. Have pity on us mere mortals. Picking on people you see as equivalent to small children or mentally challenged seems mean-spirited at best.

Peace,
Bill

[bawang]

You think it appropriate to be sarcastic when someone doesn't know something and simply asks for information? I've noticed these kind of responses happening a lot on this forum and I don't know what the reason is... It's a shame really, all these intelligent minds, this common interest we all have in WC/VT/whatever. This could be a really good place.

We shoudn't belittle each other like this. I've avoided posting here in the past for fear of being humiliated, and I wonder how many other newbs have too.

do not be scare
he is just a random douchebag, come talk

[t_niehoff]

There are different DNA is Set.

and from the set one can trace the source....

Martial DNA doesn't exist. Nor can you trace "the source" from a linked set.

[Vajramusti]

Like languages, arts from the same region can "look" similar-but a closer look can bring out great differences. And when it comes to wing chun and other southern arts, IMO- the differences are greater than the similarities. "Short power", more hands, some techniques-phoenix eye etc
are some common characteristics...but how the styles get there are quite different.
Key aspects of styles include the fundamental stancing, the breathing pattern, the levels of tension. In wing chun there is no iron wire, no sanchin breathing, no dynamic tension etc.
The similarity of yee gee kim yeung ma in wing chun and hunga is supeficial, and toes in is different fro Gee Shim.

joy chaudhuri