Jubei Nin Pocho
Originally Posted by
doug maverick
but you know warners is not in the business of making movies that don't make money. so we gonna have to settle with an R rating and a un rated dvd, you'd be surprised how much you can get away with an R rating, as long as they don't curse up a storm we should get alot of blood and guts and nudity like the anime has, look at batman that movie was rated pg 13 and so was iron man you know why? no cursing, and the body count was low, although this is going to have a high body count and blood galore, if kill bill did it so will ninja scroll. small update seems that wachowski's are in the dog house with warner's after speed racer, so hopefully they won't get it, while i loved loved loved the matrix(part one and most of two) i'm just not toally sold on them, matrix three and now speed racer has put them in doubt. and now i hear tekashi miike is also on the short list, now if he directs this movie is going to be hands down f ucking amazing.
Yeah, the anime is rated above R, by the standards of MPAA.
Doing a live action is a different ball game. On the one hand, you would hope that they would be faithful with the story. At best, it will probably be a PG-13 rendition. R rating may or may not happen. I am not in the know how about the intricacies of licensing and adaptations.
I can agree that Warner Bros. is in the business of making money, as is every other movie house/company. So, let's look at it this way. The anime and manga are well-known by anime fans. However, anime fans in general represent a small percentage of the population, as compared to the Hollywood movie fan base. If they were going to go about this, wouldn't they try to appeal to everyone?
In going about this, a PG-13 version of the movie would be able to reach a wider audience than an R rated one. Sure, the purists and anime fandom community would lash out but box office returns may offer a good buffer since you know all the anime fans will shell out for this one. That is a given. Then you have average movie watcher who may or may not have heard of Ninja Scroll. Lump in the teens and those under 17 who are able to get in, and you have a box office success.
You analogy to Kill Bill (I believe you were referring to the first one) actually makes a good point. I think that movie though, had a different focus. Tarantino, it seemed, was paying homage to different genres that he grew up with. Yeah, there was blood and limb decaps but it was nothing anyone could take seriously in my opinion. The only thing that made me wince was the parts of when Uma was pregnant.
I have no doubt as to how much you can pack into an R rated movie. Dark Knight looked like it could have been R but Iron Man not so much. That is just my personal opinion on the matter.
Matrix 3 was so long ago and Speed Racer was very recent. It seems Hollywood is very unforgiving when movies don't make it.
The American movie market has such strict rules about what is shown, that a true adaptation of the anime that we are all familiar with doesn't look to be on the horizon. The Japanese movie Shinobi: Heart Under Blade, was based upon the anime Basilisk, which was all based upon the novel that influenced Ninja Scroll. That was a great movie and not a bad adaptation. Ninja Scroll's content has some serious things that may not get past the censors that you know more about than others.
If Miike has a hand in it and it is made as a Japanese production, it will probably come out better. The US anime to live action adaptations don't seem to go so well.
*Even now, there is a lot of outcry about the new DBZ movie**
Just some opinion and conjecture. I know you'll keep us in the loop Doug.
Cordially yours,
冠木侍 (KS)
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