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    I am finding it very hard to believe that CLF, or any other kung fu style, could win a fight against a good MMA practitioner. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Just curious.

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    look at Cung le's MMA fights. just need to be **** hot in your stand up skills. Cung le fractured his last opponent's arm. No reason why can't do that with a Sau Choi. Can you spend 4 hours+ a day training though?
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    I am finding it very hard to believe that CLF, or any other kung fu style, could win a fight against a good MMA practitioner. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Just curious.


    look at Cung le's MMA fights. just need to be **** hot in your stand up skills.
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    Quote Originally Posted by badfrog666 View Post
    I am finding it very hard to believe that CLF, or any other kung fu style, could win a fight against a good MMA practitioner. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Just curious.
    you're right, now one in MMA uses chaap (straight punches), so (long hooks), kup (overhands) or jong (forearms). Kicks never work, and can never break an arm. blah blah blah

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    you're right, now one in MMA uses chaap (straight punches), so (long hooks), kup (overhands) or jong (forearms). Kicks never work, and can never break an arm. blah blah blah

    (we need better trolls, really, we should set up a school or something)
    Quality control is the issue, maybe an ISO for Trolls.
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    How does choy lee fut swinging looping punches and defense fare against western boxing tight defensive and punching structure?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kung fu fighter View Post
    How does choy lee fut swinging looping punches and defense fare against western boxing tight defensive and punching structure?
    I don't stick to one way of defending, whatever works.

    But as a CLF fighter that cross trains in Western Boxing/Muay Thai from time to time, on a particularly long streak of Thai Boxing training, I had my guard up boxing style and got KTFO by a Sow Chui that came out of nowhere. Went right around my guard and like my Sifu teaches, came crashing downward (as opposed to completely horizontally) and sent me to queer street.

    So what I'm trying to say is, it works pretty well against a boxing guard.

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    CLF looks like it's all long and they generally the impression everyone gets by watchng it but anyone who's trained know different.

    It's one of those assumptions that will catch you off guard.
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    and sent me to queer street.
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    Quote Originally Posted by k-no View Post
    I don't stick to one way of defending, whatever works.

    But as a CLF fighter that cross trains in Western Boxing/Muay Thai from time to time, on a particularly long streak of Thai Boxing training, I had my guard up boxing style and got KTFO by a Sow Chui that came out of nowhere. Went right around my guard and like my Sifu teaches, came crashing downward (as opposed to completely horizontally) and sent me to queer street.

    So what I'm trying to say is, it works pretty well against a boxing guard.

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    No disrespect intended but,

    Bruce lee even said that western boxers had the best hands by far, He even went as far as to say that western boxers would distroy most kung fu guys when it came to fighting.

    So if there are CLF techinqies which works better than western boxing why haven't professional boxers adapted them in the ring? or why haven't there been any CLF fighters that's holds a a boxing title? considering the amount of money they would make, i think they would definately compete if they thought they had a chance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lkfmdc View Post
    you're right, now one in MMA uses chaap (straight punches), so (long hooks), kup (overhands) or jong (forearms). Kicks never work, and can never break an arm. blah blah blah

    (we need better trolls, really, we should set up a school or something)
    and yet when we have a perfectly viable troll (seppuku) you want him gone. i mean he isn't great but he is the best i have seen here. maybe if you gave a little troll love we could employ some with actual skills. just a thought.

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    Quote Originally Posted by badfrog666 View Post
    I am finding it very hard to believe that CLF, or any other kung fu style, could win a fight against a good MMA practitioner. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Just curious.
    I think it depends on your training, if you look at all the aspects of CLF it as grappling as well as great stand up. If you are frighting in the street 80% of the fights end up on the ground so that means you need a good ground game aswell. You must remember that CLF is a MMA style and it has great stand up and great ground game you just have to disect the style and train hard!
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    Quote Originally Posted by badfrog666 View Post
    I am finding it very hard to believe that CLF, or any other kung fu style, could win a fight against a good MMA practitioner. Does anyone have any opinion on this? Just curious.
    It doesn’t matter what style you do, if your focus isn’t fighting, you wont be able to fight anyone really.
    Same breath, there are some MMA players who also just do it for recreational reasons who will probably never have a real fight or a tournament fight, just the same as there are CLF players who would have the same.

    And Havic, I don’t agree with you that 80% of all fights end up on the ground. That’s one statistic that grapplers usually throw around that has not yet been proven. If your theory is right, it would mean 80% of all fights (across the world in every culture). While this may be true in the usa, where you guys have wrestling in school etc, this might not be true in a country such as England where street fighting may look slightly different to other places.

    But I also agree that good ground skills are very necessary.

    If you train to fight, while keeping everything in mind, you should become proficient in fighting in a short time. Don’t let style vs style keep you occupied. There are plenty of unconditioned, well trained MMA fighters out there, and in the same breath there are plenty of untrained, well conditioned street fighters out there.
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    I agree with Eddie's comments above.

    Training CLF or any MA isn't the same as training specifically for sports fighting unless that's your thang. If you want to fight professionally..then you need to train like a professional in all areas of that sport. It isn't a 3x's per week deal.

    For those that train and apply fighting..then it's all good when they mix it up with those that don't. Yes..plz throw that devastating AxE kick to my clavicle, then we'll see just what happens.

    100% of all fights end up on the ground..for one person anyways

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    Quote Originally Posted by nospam View Post
    I agree with Eddie's comments above.

    Training CLF or any MA isn't the same as training specifically for sports fighting unless that's your thang. If you want to fight professionally..then you need to train like a professional in all areas of that sport. It isn't a 3x's per week deal.

    For those that train and apply fighting..then it's all good when they mix it up with those that don't. Yes..plz throw that devastating AxE kick to my clavicle, then we'll see just what happens.

    100% of all fights end up on the ground..for one person anyways

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    Everbody has diffrent ways of training, im not here to say my way is the only way.
    From my experience being a pro fighter and street fighter there are many was to mix it up. If i fight on the street my methods are going to be diffrent then the ring,nospan and eddie you both make good points. I still think its how you train and disect the art.
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