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    Distance Training Kung Fu & Tai Chi

    Greetings, I am looking for a non hyped up marketing scheme site that trains kung fu & tai chi at home via video. Programs are fine, like one that plumblossom.net gives, but im looking for more styles and variations of your favorites so i will have many to choose from. The only thing available near me is Shaolin Do, i went for a viewing 2 times before i decided it was not for me. I just did not like the styles and the mixture of kids and adults. I dont mind the kids being there, just the ones i seen both times were a bit rambunctious and well careless to say the least. Not all but a few. I am also wanting to know is it logical to train both Kung Fu and tai Chi forms at the same time?
    Any help would be great

    Thanks in advance,


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    Distance Training

    I am putting together a distance program for my monkey system. If you are interested please email me:

    ginosifu@shaolininstitute.com

    or visit my web:

    http://www.shaolininstitute.com

    Ginosifu

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    Can you learn effectively this way or must you have significant experience in other arts as a base?

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    Not sure, but i assume it would be like distance classes for school.. Just not hands on in a class.. When you really dont have an option it could be the only way. Driving jars me up something aweful, i hate riding in a car for an hour, stiffens me up can barely move afterwards. I gotta keep moving around. and the only school available is not what i want, its settling with a wish sandwhich when you want a steak sandwhich ya know? Hopefully i can get some good links added in here from others. Like to see the styles and what they have to offer. I dont know what im looking at, but im sure ill know what i want to train when i see it. Tai Chi maybe is the best as others have said since i do have back problems, but i want a full course as if i am being taught in person one one by the sifu / teacher.

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    Effective Distanve Training

    Quote Originally Posted by KFNOOB View Post
    Can you learn effectively this way or must you have significant experience in other arts as a base?
    Can you effectively learn thru distance only, "NO"

    You would have to combine distance with visiting the teacher in a seminar or private lesson. I have had student s come on monthly basis / some quarterly. You need instruction from the teacher and you also need a partner for Reaction / Timing drills and sparring.

    Forms alone are just exercise.

    Ginosifu

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    As most will be able to tell from my video sig, I learned my 24 form from DVD. It's unrefined at best but It's a base. I just found a sifu who's teaching 24 form once a week and guess what! I have bad habits I need to fix. I leave my ego at the door, except his knowledge, focus on what he's telling me and do my best to practice correct 24 form all week until next class. I hope to post another video in I'd say 6 months with noticable inprovement.

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    Yeah going in once in a while to test and get viewed on your achievments isnt so bad, even going to a different state isnt either. I have family who live in ohio and in Alabama, just not sure what i wanna do, I can always visit them while testing and getting my progress reports lol.. Again i dont know much about what goes on in the schools really, this is my assumption. Im sure there are alot more reasons to go to a school rather than distance training, but if nothing is available to you that you want to do then the only other option is to move... Im not moving i just bought this house last yr so that is a no go.

    Im still looking for distance training links. Anymore will be appreciated. styles and Forms do not matter, as long as it is CMA only.

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    plumblossom.net

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    Modern Distance Learning

    Some of us have careers that lead us all over the place, and those places are usually nowhere near a good CLF teacher. For a long time I simply learned from whoever was teaching on the post gym. The usual offerings are karate in some form, krav maga, and for a while I was learning from a Praying Mantis instructor.

    It seems nowadays that distance learning is more attainable, but I still feel that many IT resources are not being tapped for this. While your videos of your techniques and forms are able to be reviewed well within 24 hours, with feedback coming shortly after, I also feel that maybe virtual sessions are possible via webcam, along with forums so correspondence students might compare and make recommendations to one another. Even a virtual training log/schedule might be in order.

    Looking to the future, maybe someday we could implement biometric tracking of movement during reviews, allowing the teacher to see things he/she might not be able to see on the video. Virtual reality is another option, but it seems that with the exception of the medical field, it isn't really going anywhere as a tech.

    In the Army, VTCs are very common downrange. We also have computers tracking our bullet trajectories on the range, and numerous forms of collecting training data. I wonder how we could add that to CLF training for those who aren't fortunate enough to live in CA, FL, China, HK, or Australia.
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    distance learning

    Hi all,

    I am looking at a distance learning course for qi gong theory, anyone have any opinions on these courses? i am up in sunny northumberland and i am really struggling to find a qi gong class most are usually tai chi with a little qi gong insight anyone with any info i would be grateful.

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    Well, that's pretty hard to find.

    Al Simon has a great distance learning Qigong course, it is part of his tai chi training, but you will get a lot out of it anyways.
    My Martial Arts articles archive:

    http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm

    Shaolin Qigong / Neigong Healing & Self Defense Programs and Seminars:

    http://www.jindaolife.com
    http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/index.html

    Qigong Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/QigongProgram.htm
    Chinese Martial Art Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchoo...ArtProgram.htm


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    Thanks for mentioning me, Sal.

    Ninetoes, if you are looking for theory, I'm not certain my stuff would be right for you. We are mostly a Chi Development course (rather than strictly a Qigong or Tai Chi course) which might fit what you want, but we're mostly focused on practice rather than theory, which doesn't fit. And we mostly work with the "average person" who wants to learn Chi Development, rather than the die-hard practitioners and martial artists.

    But you are welcome to check it out. There's enough free stuff the first few weeks on the list to give you an idea of what we're about.

    Thanks,
    Al

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    Even though I have been practicing, learning, etc Qigong since 1980 and teaching for over a decade, I got a LOT out of your course anyways.

    I knew all the theory, what it helped me with was organizing the material better (which helped me teach beginners better) and double checking that all the physical details are being done correctly (what to make sure my students are doing so that I don't do monkey see monkey do teaching).
    My Martial Arts articles archive:

    http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm

    Shaolin Qigong / Neigong Healing & Self Defense Programs and Seminars:

    http://www.jindaolife.com
    http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/index.html

    Qigong Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/QigongProgram.htm
    Chinese Martial Art Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchoo...ArtProgram.htm


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    If you just want theory, then you are better off with a book.

    "Zen Body Mind Being" is an amazing book by Peter Ralston.
    He has a newer book that is 5 inches thick, but also amazing.

    Bruce Frantzis has a great book out called "The Great Stillness" that I would recommend.

    There are other great books out as well. You'd have to be more clear about what exactly you want.
    Qigong theory starting from scratch?

    Also, I'm pretty sure that Bruce Frantzis does indeed have a qigong theory distance learning thing set up. It concentrates on meditation.
    My Martial Arts articles archive:

    http://www.bgtent.com/naturalcma/index.htm

    Shaolin Qigong / Neigong Healing & Self Defense Programs and Seminars:

    http://www.jindaolife.com
    http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/index.html

    Qigong Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchool/QigongProgram.htm
    Chinese Martial Art Program: http://www.bgtent.com/CMAQigongSchoo...ArtProgram.htm


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    Quote Originally Posted by Sal Canzonieri View Post
    Even though I have been practicing, learning, etc Qigong since 1980 and teaching for over a decade, I got a LOT out of your course anyways.

    I knew all the theory, what it helped me with was organizing the material better (which helped me teach beginners better) and double checking that all the physical details are being done correctly (what to make sure my students are doing so that I don't do monkey see monkey do teaching).
    Thanks, Sal. I appreciate your comments and your support.

    Books are a good suggestion. You mentioned some good books. My favorite theory book is The Root of Chinese Qigong by Yang Jwing-ming. Though it does promote mostly his teachings, there's some good general info and it reads a lot like a Qigong "textbook".

    Best wishes,
    Al

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