Moo Moo
the "unrest" in tibet since march 14th is "officially" over.
they are letting TV reporters from Taiwan, Hong Kong and other countries to enter tibet for the first time.
Lhasa is opened to the public, again.
Hundreds of people died and others arrested.
the securities are still tight in tibet, yun nan and si chuan.
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the paper called it the march 14 th incident or 3.14 "incident".
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peaceful protests around olympic torch will continue.
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Onegashimas?
Not sure where you heard it's "officially over." This news just yesterday in the New York Times:
And the PRC has not "let in" the foriegn media, they are escorting foreign journalists on carefully crafted tours, hoping that they'll be dumb enough to believe the spin. According to the AP, USA Today, and the WAll Street Journal, we're not buying it.On Tuesday, protesters and the police clashed in Garze, a prefecture of Sichuan, state media and a Tibetan rights group said. Some 200 monks and nuns began a march earlier in the day that turned violent when the police sought to suppress the crowd, the India-based Tibetan Center for Human Rights and Democracy said.
China’s Xinhua news agency said the police opened fire in self-defense after the demonstrators attacked them with knives and stones. The rights group said one 18-year-old monk was killed and another was critically injured, while Xinhua said protesters killed one policeman.
http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2...26-tibet_N.htm
http://online.wsj.com/article/SB1206...googlenews_wsj
http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5h...2NkhgD8VL5OPO0
In further news, China has blocked an effort by Australian Diplomats to visit Tibet, French Foreign Affairs officials recieve criticism for not taking a stronger stance against China; and subsequently open talks concerning an Olymipics boycott, and good ol' George W. Bush ain't about to give up his tickets to the games 'cause "athletes would be disappointed."
I'm sure they'd be crushed, Mr. President.
http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/chi...207206689.html
http://www.reuters.com/article/lates.../idUSL26383126
http://www.hindustantimes.com/StoryP...c+not+politics'
Banned Li Fut
Hypocrisy. We still use Chinese products, and I don't see any mass boycotss of that. We'll protest, but not to the state that it becomes uncomfortable.
The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
~ Mark Twain
Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
~ Joe Lewis
A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
~ Author unknown
"You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"
"Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"
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'Carefully crafted tours', well at least they (China) aren't quietly selling out their own country like Bush & Harper have done along with Mexico and the North American media hardly speaks of it. Well Tibet is nice distraction in the very least (maybe even brought to you by the CIA) and in the meanwhile the CNN media doesn't even have to spin anything about the SPP & the pending North American Union (aka NAU).Originally Posted by Samurai Jack
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T74VA3xU0EA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vuBo4E77ZXo
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m4axRYJymHI
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ccxQRaLIOM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0q5eTXBOUP4
Boycott China how about looking into what your own Gov't (mine included) are doing to all of us under our own noses while CNN distracts you with Tibet & Richard Gere (not to mention trival wastes of time like Britney Spears, Paris Hilton, etc...). Tibet & boycotting China should be the least of your worries! The slavery of the past that the Tibetan Lamas imposed on their own people will in the very least provide an outline for labour practices here in the new NAU.
WAKE UP THE F C U K UP!
Last edited by firepalm; 03-27-2008 at 01:00 AM.
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Banned Li Fut
Wait...what's going on with Richard Gere?? I thought he did a great job in Hunting Party.
The weakest of all weak things is a virtue that has not been tested in the fire.
~ Mark Twain
Everyone has a plan until they’ve been hit.
~ Joe Lewis
A warrior may choose pacifism; others are condemned to it.
~ Author unknown
"You don't feel lonely.Because you have a lively monkey"
"Ninja can HURT the Spartan, but the Spartan can KILL the Ninja"
Onegashimas?
Perhaps not carefully crafted enough:
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/new...cle3630653.ece
Moo Moo
some hear say and comments;
1. Lhasa is the most "watched" or "guarded" city in China.
there are agents and counter agents everywhere or under cover police, inside and out side of the temple.
soldiers of PLA outnumber local residents.
2. the temple is holy ground for pilgrims. it is sacred for local people, IT IS NOT A TOURIST attraction. non believers no need to visit.
on the other hand, Shao Lin is showcased and tourists welcome.
3. We may read all the medias. however, we have to form or reserve our conclusions.
a. the brave monks shouting and risking arraignment.
and yes, the shouting may relieve the idea that da lai la ma being the mastermind behind the recent "incident".
it is worth a "try".
b. recent chinese media blaming da lai la ma for the incident. it is to pressure him to exert his influence to pacify or quiet local people. Chinese does not have evidence to link him to the incident.
in short, some times we see things but things may have meanings beyond their appearances.
c. each government will "show" its response but falling short of boycotting the games. it is to pressure Chinese to resolve the incident peacefully, b/c we are watching closely.
d. everyone is reading or watching Chinese affairs, most of us are aware of the tibetant people cause since 1950.
I have many relatives from Yun Nan. I am familiar with tibetan, miao, bai yi etc. I luv the culture, the people and the land.--
however, politics is always politics.
it is a never ending story. no matter what structure or society, there will always be a group of people in power, and others under rule or "oppressed".
e. Cultural revolution, it was not only against old culture of China and tibet.
it was a class struggle. farmers, workers, and soldiers leading the society, the capitalists, the rich, land owners, -- have to be ruled by them,
f. 30 years of reforms and opening doors.
teachers are respected again and earn a higher salary. confuscious birthday is honored, --
in contrast to closure of college, teachers go to country side and learn farming, the students do whatever except going to class (red guards) from 1966-1976.
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for me, the welfare of most of the people would be our primary concern and not those of the few or "privillaged".
the world is for all the people and not just a few.
Tian Xia Wei Gong.
Tian Xia Wei Tian Xia Ren Zhi Tian Xia.
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in short I am against the political leaders/party that worry about their power and not the welfare of the people.
whatever it is best for most of the people, I am for it.
oops, it is the concept of democrasy.
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end of rants.
Last edited by SPJ; 03-27-2008 at 07:45 AM.
Itinerant practitioner
Let me put it this way.
Canada faced insurrection from Quebec in the 1970's with the FLQ crisis and a militant separatist group. there was a kidnapping and a murder and finally, the most liberal of all liberal leaders ever P.E Trudeau declared Martial Law, sent the army in and stopped the separatists.
is Canada like China and Tibet in that respect? You bet, and that's why we still have an issue with separatists today in Canada who want an independent and sovereign Quebec. Since that time, we've had what are called referendums on the matter, we've had a huge outpouring of Anglophiles from Quebec in the 80's and businesses moved away from Quebec in Droves at the time. there was violence, there was murder, there was soldiers in the street. i remember it quite clearly.
We still have a united country and Quebec is part of Canada and I am happy that this is so because despite the cultural differences in Quebec, I consider them Canadian and absolutely necessary to the defining of this Country as what it is.
Does that make me evil? To some Quebecois, it sure does. I can live with that.
China is a huge country, it has huge issues and the looks we give it on this matter are hardly glances. In our well practiced hypocrisy, we forget that we have filth and stains on our own countries records that we should probably deal with before taking up the vague causes of militant outsiders that are more than likely funded by groups who have an interest in the further political blemishing of a given government.
Kung Fu is good for you.
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US and every country in the world recognize Tibet as part of China. Anyone saying otherwise should first convince their own government to change their position to officially recognize Tibet as an independent country and the Dalai Lama as the official political head of the government.
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