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  1. 11-21-2007, 05:34 PM #1
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    Just so we're all on the same page

    watch this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ScOPEO31vmI


    then watch this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZx39m...eature=related


    then compare it with this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8UOMTCNshj8

    and this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VdnG_eWz3-E
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    I see what you mean: Guitarrez should definitely be wearing a headguard with all those dangerous punches coming in at all angles near his head, and no way does Nog need one with a face and cauliflower ears like that.

    And hah! To think those clowns in the ring think that what they're doing is alive. Don't they know you need to show you're alive with the joy of life with a two metre skip and some demonstrative hand-waving?
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    What's your sig from, Nick?
    its safe to say that I train some martial arts. Im not that good really, but most people really suck, so I feel ok about that - Sunfist

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    Nick,
    dudes in the ring are just doing counter drills ,,,,,

    doesn't everybody work that ?

    come to think of it I will be in the ring tonight working mitts and counters with Rob LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Punch View Post
    What's your sig from, Nick?
    Film called Spartan by David Mamet with Val Kilmer

    A very, very good but not well known film
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Forrer View Post
    watch this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=ScOPEO31vmI


    then watch this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=fZx39m...eature=related


    then compare it with this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=8UOMTCNshj8

    and this

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=VdnG_eWz3-E
    I think that Scott needs to cut his hair, Matt needs to stop beating a dead horse, Victor needs to wake up and smell the river and Silva needs to stop dancing.

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    About Matt Thornton's vid (the first one Nick posted)...

    Excellent stuff. But keep in mind that Matt is "selling" his ALIVENESS thing. Really selling it. (Along with his correct analysis of timing and energy). After all, he wants people to come to his seminars, buy his vids, etc.

    But like the chess game that he talks about - martial arts requires learning how the pieces move first...this way, that way, etc...similar to the "dead drills" that he talked of with the guy in cross chest side control practicing the various armlocks that could come from there.

    But since the problem is that SO MANY martial art schools spend TOO MUCH TIME not only doing the basics but lingering there waaay too long - Matt Thornton's approach is a very good wake up call.

    Constant training with aliveness, timing, and energy is the key to making your art functional.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ultimatewingchun View Post
    EDIT.... like the chess game that he talks about - martial arts requires learning how the pieces move first...this way, that way, etc...similar to the "dead drills" that he talked of with the guy in cross chest side control practicing the various armlocks that could come from there.

    But since the problem is that SO MANY martial art schools spend TOO MUCH TIME not only doing the basics but lingering there waaay to long - Matt Thornton's approach is a very good wake up call.

    Constant training with aliveness, timing, and energy is the key to making your art functional.
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  9. 11-22-2007, 05:14 PM #9
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    MMA is no good for the street?

    check this out

    http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=rOQLg7Kc8So
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  10. 11-22-2007, 05:55 PM #10
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    Cool.

    Good film Spartan, Val Kilmer back on form with that and kiss kiss bang bang

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  11. 11-22-2007, 10:10 PM #11
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    Steve Morris' youtube vids a WELL WORTH watching. Excellent movement and attitude.

    Nick, did I see you in the background of one of Morris' seminar clips? ; )
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  12. 11-23-2007, 04:48 AM #12
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wu Wei Wu View Post
    Steve Morris' youtube vids a WELL WORTH watching. Excellent movement and attitude.

    Nick, did I see you in the background of one of Morris' seminar clips? ; )
    yep...I try and train with him whenever I get the chance
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