Lama Sup Ji

[Lama Pai Sifu]

see a mistake is a mistake though.

its kinda hard to go back and erase what been done.

and to your guy's admission, dave ross made the mistake.....NOT sifu gus. to be fair, YOU guys fed him that information, right? so go light on him.

and to be honest, as far i know, there's a hand full of students, but you never hear who is the chose one for CTS. if you are......step up to the plate.

if its left open, then you all should honor CTS and make something of his gung fu.

if the words are really clear cloud, then historically fix the problem. but now sifu gus has an interesting story behind his schools name.

i'm sure if he changed it right now to clear cloud and made and explanation on his site, it would ease people into knowing why there's confusion.

but if sifu gus wanted to, using the GREEN CLOUD name, he can do what he wants in his school. It's clear you guys are all separate in doing your own thing.

but i would agree, historically, make sure the change is in place about the name.

Hey Frank, Gus is a big boy and can fight his own battles. I don't even know where this concerns you.

And with certain styles, yes, my teacher appointed a head. It is in writing. We don't talk about it because there is no need. Plus, inside our group, everyone knows where everyone really stands. There is no plate to step up to.

And no one is ragging on Gus because of David's mistake. If you read everything with an unbiased eye, you'd understand that. We are ragging on him because he is perpetrating a lie at this point, for his own gain. We all know that there is no Green, but he still talks about it and our teacher like it's a real place.

But YOU are not helping anything by obviously going to bat for him.

And you said "IF the words are really Clear Cloud" - of course they are! Why would you even try to fan a flame by saying things like that? The proof has been displayed for all to see.

I don't see what you are trying to resolve here. Only gus can resolve this. You have nothing to do with it.

And I'm almost expecting you to start in with me now, because you may not like what I said. The truth of the matter is, this doesn't concern you. You are only getting involved because there is some kind of drama here and you are not happy unless you are involved in drama.

[hskwarrior]

where does this concern me?

as most of you guys feel, and have said, its a public forum. when you publicly air your dirty laundry, others have to smell it. so if i'm smelling it, it has something to do with me.

not forgetting , sifu gus is a friend of mine.

[hskwarrior]

actually you're wrong again........

because the very first time i ever saw those characters, i proved that you guys may be in the correct.

thats MY contribution.........

do me a favor, idk if its that NY thing, but do you always speak the way you do?

your tone makes me WANT to argue with YOU.

[hskwarrior]

if it don't concern me.......

take it off the forum!!!!!

[lkfmdc]

I'm from NY Frank, born and raised here, and I think all my posts here have been factual, accurate and not personal in any way

The issues are public because web sites are public and this forum is public, and stuff is said on the web site and here on teh forum that are not correct.

Again (5th time?) if he wants to call his school "green cloud" why would any of us care?

We don't care that in the PAST he used that name in RE to Chan Tai San, becasue we ALL did

But NOW, in the present, we all know it isn't correct, so from now on, in RE to CTS and his Pai, dont' say it is "green"

pretty simple, no?

[cjurakpt]

IWe don't care that in the PAST he used that name in RE to Chan Tai San, becasue we ALL did

But NOW, in the present, we all know it isn't correct, so from now on, in RE to CTS and his Pai, dont' say it is "green"

pretty simple, no?

that about sums it up - and the important thing to understand is that it has NOTHING to do with Gus per se - in other words, now that the truth is known, NO ONE should be using Green Cloud as relates to CTS; I mean, if someone who had nothing to do with CTS posted on their website that CTS's MA came from Green Cloud, and one of us corrected them on it, they would simply change it, no questions asked (and if they didn't change it, we'd justifiably be all over them about it); the only real problem is that Gus has his livelihood invested in the recognition of the name - I mean, he's free and clear about the "error" aspect - it wasn't his mistake, that's obvious; it's simply a matter of economics, and economics dictate that he keep the name; end of discussion

[Lama Pai Sifu]

actually you're wrong again........

because the very first time i ever saw those characters, i proved that you guys may be in the correct.

thats MY contribution.........

do me a favor, idk if its that NY thing, but do you always speak the way you do?

your tone makes me WANT to argue with YOU.

No Frank, anyone speaking in a different way than you are not agreeing with all that you say makes you WANT to argue with THEM.

The truth is Frank, all you do is argue - it's what you do best. Besides bragging...you are pretty good at that too. Always talking about your accident, your handicap, your lineage Fut San Hung Sing, Lau Bun, your book, your project, etc. etc.

You know it's funny, but for a guy who goes around saying Saam Sing Yat Ga, you sure don't practice what you preach. You fight with every CLF person on here at one time or another. Funny though, they don't seem to fight with each other...just you.

And just because you can smell something Frank..doesn't mean you have to eat it. Try taking that one to heart and maybe yours will be healthier.

[Lama Pai Sifu]

where does this concern me?

as most of you guys feel, and have said, its a public forum. when you publicly air your dirty laundry, others have to smell it. so if i'm smelling it, it has something to do with me.

not forgetting , sifu gus is a friend of mine.

Right, but you are being 'invited' out of the discussion. There is nothing you can add to it positively, so anything you say/do will detract from what we are all trying to accomplish - that being RESOLUTION.

This is not one of your lineage wars or unprovable history items that you appear so fond of and that you beat into the ground. This concerns us, not you. Just because we are using the forum to communicate, doesn't mean that we asked you to pull up a chair and grab the microphone. So, why don't you just sit in the back and eat your popcorn like you said you were going to to.

[cjurakpt]

Dave & Mike: check your PM box...