Try to never mirror your opponent’s stance.

[Ali. R]

Did you notice me trying to drill this with Pete Monday night? He was impressed. It worked well for him. And you know me...I was trying to hit his ass hard. And you know Pete doesnt train any other way.

~Cg~

Man, you guys were going at it...


Ali Rahim.

[Ali. R]

I have to say that you guys have been great…

Can you feel it?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8ouI5KcyHfE

It's all about the love...

Ali Rahim.

[Phil Redmond]

Notice, he did every thing that I said too do, and it was clear that he was never in danger because his center was not under attack… By simply moving his feet and holding structure with “chum” in his stance, and with asking energy he wasted no time, while controlling the bigger man’s balance…

A lot quicker then the flank to me…


Ali Rahim.

Fortunately for us we train to fight in the middle and on the flank. You have to deal with the situation. But for those who say that WC never fights on the flank at all take a look at the wooden dummy form. I also have a clip of Sifu Chan Chee Man showing how YM taught him how to fight on the flank (blind side), when you're in trouble on the inside. So if you're a YM purist and YM taught it then the concept has to have some validity right?

[Ali. R]

Fortunately for us we train to fight in the middle and on the flank. You have to deal with the situation. But for those who say that WC never fights on the flank at all take a look at the wooden dummy form. I also have a clip of Sifu Chan Chee Man showing how YM taught him how to fight on the flank (blind side)when you're in trouble on the inside. So if you're a YM purist and YM taught it then the concept has to have some validity right?

Cool!!!


Ali Rahim.

[Ali. R]

But for those who say that WC never fights on the flank at all take a look at the wooden dummy form.

I don’t know of any system that runs the flank on the wooden man, which seems kinda funky, because the wooden man should be teaching body unity (feet follows the hands)… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7nVZhqb04

I was taught:

“Just because one is on the outside of the arm (wooden man), doesn’t mean that one is always on the outside”…

Woo.


Ali Rahim.

[JPinAZ]

He tried going to the outside, but ‘sifu’ just pivoted each time out… Yes he did stand in the stance ‘Phil’ talk about, but almost never attack from that position and would never step to the outside, because he would have played right into the bigger man’s reach and mass…

He just faced it, jammed it, sliced it and wedged it…. “Yut Fook Yee Da”


Ali Rahim.

Or maybe it was just his preferrence to stay there. All this bickering IMO stil doesn't prove the mirrored stance is right or wrong... And not trying to troll by saying this.
I assume that Sifu Ali choses to fight crossed stance and also on the inside - it's his preference. And I hear Sifu Phil saying he fights both ways, take what comes.
IMO, they both show preference (or lack of) based on training and/or experience. It's tough though saying one is wrong where the other is right based on THIER experience...

[Phil Redmond]

I don’t know of any system that runs the flank on the wooden man, which seems kinda funky, because the wooden man should be teaching body unity (feet follows the hands)… http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8X7nVZhqb04

I was taught:

“Just because one is on the outside of the arm (wooden man), doesn’t mean that one is always on the outside”…

Woo.


Ali Rahim.

NOT!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVd2jTgU9Y Yip Man's son demonstrating how to go to the flank in the wooden dummy form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEnp8JxTwk (3:55 - 4:46)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=581N1...eature=related (:38)

Quod erat demonstrandum

[Dan_chi_sau]

not saying it wouldnt work, but if everyone on the planet attacked like that, we wouldnt need wing chun, you could just walk off........

[Phil Redmond]

Marcus Vindictus: Don't you know your right flank from your left flank?

Captain Mucus: I'm sorry sir, I flunked flank.

Marcus Vindictus: You flunked flank? Get the flunk out of here!

[Nick Forrer]

NOT!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ikVd2jTgU9Y Yip Man's son demonstrating how to go to the flank in the wooden dummy form.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7iEnp8JxTwk (3:55 - 4:46)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=581N1...eature=related (:38)

Quod erat demonstrandum

wow that ip chun vid is terrible

[Liddel]

wow that ip chun vid is terrible

Glad someone else thinks so too.....

DREW

[Phil Redmond]

Glad someone else thinks so too.....

DREW

Oh, the hate mail you and Nick are going to get . . . lol

[Bluesjammer]

Originally Posted by Bluesjammer

I would LOVE to see someone who is NOT as big as you, pull off ANYTHING you say against a guy your size.

Stay on the INSIDE!!!


HAAAAAA!


Here you go…

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jkKJv4XdF_k


Ali Rahim.
__________________


Grados is quick. No denying that.
BUT...
That guy he fought pulled at least ten punches that I could see.
And it was pretty much just a slap fight.
In fact, all the big guy did at the start of each round was to just keep Pak Sau'ing Grados' punches, without even trying to attack any of the MANY openings Grados had in his center. The guy went round punch on Grados while Grados stayed punching in the middle.
Which, though you THINK it supports your point, it doesn't.
Since the guy was obviously slower than Grados, for him to STAY ON THE INSIDE was SUICIDE for him!
He SHOULD have gone to the outside!
But, again, this is a poor example, because the guy never used his bigger size. He tried to play Grados' game, which Grados is better at. If he had USED his size in this video, and Grados had been able to "Pivot" out of it, THEN you MIGHT have had something.

[Bluesjammer]

In all my studies of “chi kung” and “dim mak”, all of the most and serious pressure points are located in the center…


Ali Rahim.

Ah, you make the logically false point that since YOU don't know any, then there AREN'T any.

Let's see... The temple.
Under the ear, there are two.
The floating rib, which if broken, frequently pucnctures the lung.
The famous "Charley Horse" on the side of the thigh.
A cross knee shot.

[Bluesjammer]

Notice, he did every thing that I said too do, and it was clear that he was never in danger because his center was not under attack… By simply moving his feet and holding structure with “chum” in his stance, and with asking energy he wasted no time, while controlling the bigger man’s balance…

A lot quicker then the flank to me…


Ali Rahim.

He was never in danger because the guy sucked compared to Grados!

And it was only his speed that was superior. They both had a lot of slop.

So if you are faster than anyone, stay on the inside.

If you are normal, then you need to use strategy and structure and technique.

And again, WHERE did the guy ever USE his size?