i hope kung fu doesnt go in this direction

[Shaolinlueb]

but it seems like it has with all the new wushu crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M91D7643ItM

so awful. you can see my comment on the bottom.

[golden arhat]

lol the saddest thing was that he adjusted his gi in the middle then carried on

[Shaolinlueb]

lol the saddest thing was that he adjusted his gi in the middle then carried on

yeah it was!!!


omg MK great find!! about 36 seconds in she does this awesome kick. dude i love her kicking.

[street_fighter]

if someone ever yelled anything like that at me when i was competing i would destroy them, and everything they ever loved. then again i think the chances of me competing in XMA are about the same as them ever being able to defend themselves.

[Shaolinlueb]

fawking hot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SeRfxb_Iw

[Vash]

. . .

and I thought Isshinryu's Kusanku form was kinda flashy.

Someone, please assist me in plucking out my eyes. My teeth won't reach that far.

[MasterKiller]

fawking hot
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i9SeRfxb_Iw

After all that and she can't kip without using hands...?

[MasterKiller]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA4Id_Sax4w

[Becca]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PA4Id_Sax4w

Is it me or do her "shouts" sound more like cats getting thier tails stomped on? And The placement totally random.

That being said, those slow spins with one foot up my her head were very cool; no way in he!! I could pull that off.

[Scott R. Brown]

That being said, those slow spins with one foot up my her head were very cool; no way in he!! I could pull that off.

This is going to so weird and unbelievable I know, and I CAN'T prove this to anyone because I have no photographic proof, but not only could I do that when I was 20 years old (28 years ago) but I could do it standing ONLY on tip of my big toe.

I am not lying or exaggerating. (Not the spins on one toe, the leg up high on one toe, holding for time) The spins are easy though once you can do the leg.

[Becca]

I am not lying or exaggerating. (Not the spins on one toe, the leg up high on one toe, holding for time) The spins are easy though once you can do the leg.

I beleive you. I can spin on one foot with the other up, but my knee has to be bent and no higher than my waist. But up my the ear? I just don't bend that way.

[B-Rad]

i hope kung fu doesnt go in this direction
but it seems like it has with all the new wushu crap.

If kungfu guys don't like forms competition, then don't compete. Whether you're doing gymnastics or not, either way you're getting a subjective score based on performance rather than fighting. Forms competition and performing is fun, but it's not the goal for most anyone in kungfu for the long term. Even a lot of wushu guys go back to traditional when they're older.

Judges also need to have good eyes and not reward things like back flips or acrobatics in traditional divisions. I don't think there's anything wrong with throwing in a back flip or something if the rest of the form is good technique, but I don't think there should be extra points offsetting bad technique. If it's something like musical extreme martial arts katas, who cares? It's purely entertainment.

Kungfu guys have been doing tricks for years... look at Wah Lum and the LKH CLF schools. Or that mantis chain whip video with the aerial and butt hopping. Or even old pictures I've seen of kungfu guys doing spear against throat "qigong" tricks, sword swallowing, or lion dancing I don't really think it's hurt anything. I have a much easier time finding good kungfu now days than I did 10 years ago, despite the popularity of XMA and the nandu changes emphasis in today's modern wushu competition.

[yutyeesam]

but it seems like it has with all the new wushu crap.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M91D7643ItM

so awful. you can see my comment on the bottom.

I think this XMA fad is pretty much done, in that being all the rage. Things that tend to be all style with very little substance come and go really fast.

Kung-Fu's problem is not how will it blend with the XMA world. Kung-Fu's problem is how will it blend with the MMA world.

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[GeneChing]

For Kung fu to thrive, it needs to be more open minded on all levels. Most so-called traditionalists pooh pooh performance martial arts, which is really ironic. It shows a fundamental ignorance of our tradition. TCMA has had a connection to performance-based forms for centuries. Look at the jianghu, who performed on the streets. They did stunts and tricks, albeit not as sophisticated as we do now. Look even further back to the sword dances that were performed for the emperors. Sword dances are some of our earliest documentations of martial demonstrations.

To be open minded, we need to be open minded on all levels. We need to embrace MMA. We need to embrace trickers. That doesn't mean that we all need to do MMA or tricking, but it does mean that we shouldn't be critical. These trickers are out there doing there thing. That's fine. It's great entertainment. MMA is great entertainment too. Personally, that's how I view both of them. I'm neither an MMA practitioner (at least not in the current definition of the term) nor a tricker. I'm not going to bash others who chose that path. Some one has to go out an entertain the masses.

[lkfmdc]

We need to embrace MMA.

Unfortunately Gene, out of your whole post, that was the only statement I actually agreed with...

Has TCMA always been associated with perfromance? YES, of course it has. It has also always been associated with cheap magic tricks, deception, fraud and cons. IE just because something is part of the tradition doesn't mean we should automatically embrace it as positive

Speaking as a disciple of someone who DID make a living performing on the street (ie CTS), I can tell you pretty much all the things they did were "tricks" (ie no functional martial application) and they lived off the ignorance of their audience , who despite being CHinese knew as much about TCMA as the average American does today

It's like catch wrestling, which has a legit, real, applicable side, it also has it's association with pro wrestling, gimmicks, fake matches and fake techiques. To keep the real art alive, they have to DISassociate