Quote Originally Posted by Shaolin Master View Post
Sal,

Could you clarify your question? Somehow in amongst all that I did not catch it.
Yes, there are many Hongquan some related some not, but pretty straightforward.

e.g. to some I could see:

Yang Jwingming's things are derived from the Nanjing Guoshu Assoc. (combined from Hebei and Shandong Masters' arts). which then was taken to Taiwan.

The Emei qixing set is from Zhaomen (of the 8 men of Emei)....it was derived from Zhili (Hebei) and Shanxi Martial arts so of course related to Shanxi and Hebei arts.

Shanxi Hongquan is itself a combination of arts.........

etc....

Regards
Wu Chanlong
Thanks, well I have these questions:

Just what the heck is Shanxi Hong Quan? Where did they get all these sets from? I have had a hard time investigating this right now.
Is is Shaolin derived? How old is it?
I know that some of their sets came from Emei, but what about the others?

What can you tell me about Ming TZ Hong Quan?
Is it in any way related or derived from Song TZ Hong Quan at all?
I think not, I think it is more like Hong Gar's type of Hong Quan.
Is it completely different and if so what styles is it derived from?

Also, the style in Shandong known as Plumflower, it is a series of sets, the ones that Yang Jing Ming teaches and others. They do two Tai Tzu Quan sets (yi and er lu). Where do these sets come from?
People are telling me that these two TZ sets are unrelated to Song TZ, that they are an amalgamation of Shandong martial arts.
thanks