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    Interesting. I'm not going to hold my breath that they'll actually overhaul the whole thing.

    I want the main cast changed, but I have a hard time believing that'll happen.

    I mean, seriously... what would they do about Uncle Iroh? You put that Teen Idol mag dude as Zuko and cast an Asian man to play the role of traditional bearded Chinese mentor dude as his uncle you're going to have not credibility.

    Suddenly you go from having a lily white cast of main characters to having to have nearly all the supporting characters be similarly lily white in order for the main characters to even make sense. Then what?

    **** foolish if you ask me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GeneChing View Post
    Spearheading the protest on Airbender is Saving the World with Postage which is pushing for a letter-writing campaign.

    A new casting call is being held tomorrow in at the Wachovia Spectrum in Philadelphia, PA. If you're interested, contact lastairbendercasting@gmail.com 215-574-7878. Applicants are asked to "dress casually OR in the traditional costume of your family's ethnic background."
    A sombrero, leiderosen, toga & kilt??? I don't think they've got a spot for me there...
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    I'll tell. Sifu

    This movie will suck in the the way that only M. Night can make a movie suck
    The problem is not with Night who is actually a decent director, the problem lays in the people he has surrounded himself with always promoting their own self interest to the point of sacrificing the quality of all of his films! I know first hand since I was part of the crew on "The Happening" which sucked so hard videos on the shelf next to it move closer by the pull of gravitational suck-i-ness!

    One of my classmates who happens to be one of the creators of the show had a very disrespectful falling out with my teacher by minimizing his involvement with the show in interviews and media then proceeded to back door f u c k Sifu over as "punishment" after Sifu called him on the carpet!

    (Sifu we who watched from the sidelines KNOW you were the heart and soul of the essence and success of that show.)

    Also I must add that the weasel d i c ks behind the scenes tried to milk Sifu for consultation materials. Sifu answered questions, wrote outlines and overviews for filming and training and the moment when he asked about contracts and a solid written deal they brought in their friends and friends of the stunt coordinator (who is not a martial artist) and the good old boy club rolled along in full effect while they lead him on with empty promises. Somewhere in that time line he told them to Go Fork themselves

    Animated Avatar was based on the movements of traditional Chinese gung fu. The film will be choreographed and the actors trained by people who wouldn't know Chinese Gung Fu if was bitting them in the neathers.

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    The above is all hearsay only. Mind you all who read here Sifu never told me any of this but the senior students talk, I listen and at one point my Sihings were going to get together and correct Bryan. The C o c k breath never sleep.

    Hollywood? LOL!

    Sifu I am at your mercy

    Quote Originally Posted by Lokhopkuen View Post
    I'm not involved with the project.
    I have a copy of the script.
    I've hung out with this dude,
    nice guy.

    My new philosophy is "F U C K Hollywood"

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    Dude do you ever think?

    WTF?!?!?
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    Uh oh....

    Somebody's going to be in trouble next class...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zenshiite View Post
    Uh oh....

    Somebody's going to be in trouble next class...
    He didn't have to wait for class
    The above is a very distorted re-telling of an unrelated series of semi factual hear says.
    He doesn't know what he is talking about.
    To the mind that is still, the whole universe surrenders.
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    Use of wire in MA movies

    [QUOTE=doug maverick;907097]you hate wires in kung fu movies? **** you must hate every martial arts film that has ever been made, cause they all use wires, every last one of them. yes even the tony jaa films.
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    Sorry for the overstatement, I dislike Crouching Tiger hidden Dragon "wire" theatrics and Jet Li's "The One". On the other hand, IMHO, Fearless, Fist of legend, Kiss of the Dragon, etc... use a tolerable amount of wire. Sorry to stir you up. That's how I feel. Obviously most peole like it b/c it is used so much. I don't believe I'm correct in this opinion, I just don't like it.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lokhopkuen View Post
    He didn't have to wait for class
    The above is a very distorted re-telling of an unrelated series of semi factual hear says.
    He doesn't know what he is talking about.
    Well, whatever happened... sorry it did.

    Too bad we can't get the real dirt...

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    im not one to pre-judge any film before i see it. but this film is really shaping up to be something aweful, i mean lets make a serious drama about the last black man on earth and put johnny depp in the lead role in black face since its all like that(wait scratch that with J. depp in the lead that might be a good movie, lets say keanu reeves). i mean this is just bad for hollywood, and if they do go through with it, there is going to be a huge fallout over this film.

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    Definitely.

    Sad really, because this could be a huge movie.

    If you think about it, it's also a major step back. Look at the last wuxia flick that Hollywood did, and aside from minor quibbles people have... did right. The Forbidden Kingdom. That had a white kid in it as a main character, but that movie was marketed with Jackie and Jet. The American kid was nowhere to be seen in trailers and definitely not on posters.

    Plus, they shot in China. Avatar the Last Airbender should follow that example, not what we are seeing right now.

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    well you know the more people talk about it, and argue about the more things change. cause studios actually have a staff of people who peruse the internet to see what fans of a certain comic book or tv show are saying. its been a proven fact over the last couple of years that the so called analyst have literally lost touch and dont know what people want. they are putting lots an lots of money into this film, if they think there will be a hint of trouble trust me when i say they will overhaul the entire cast. it has been done plenty of times.

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    Then I'll keep *****in' about it.

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    thats right, lets raise some hell...get this film either changed or shelved. first time im 100% against a film(funny that its a kids film that i should even be concerned with,lol).

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    Yeah, weird huh?

    I never would've thought I'd want to stop a movie being made of a franchise I like.

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    Asian Pop's take

    Asian Pop is an S.F. Chronicle column by Jeff Yang. I've posted links to his stuff before.
    'Avatar' an Asian thing- why isn't the cast?
    Jeff Yang
    Thursday, January 29, 2009

    When is an Asian cartoon not an Asian cartoon? The answer to this Zen dilemma is at the heart of the latest high-octane kerfuffle clogging the Intertubes - one that's pulled into its vortex two of the most celebrated Asian American creators in comics: Gene Yang, National Book Award finalist for his graphic novel, "American Born Chinese," and Derek Kirk Kim, whose work has won comics' most prestigious laurels, the Xeric, Ignatz, Eisner and Harvey awards.

    That's because the two happen to be passionate devotees of Nickelodeon's animated TV series "Avatar: The Last Airbender." The show completed its third and final season last year only to have the cable network green-light a live-action, big-screen adaptation, which was greeted with both anticipation and anxiety by the show's burgeoning fan base.

    Last month, with the unveiling of the film's principal cast, the fans' worst fears were realized, prompting self-proclaimed "Avatards" - chief among them 'toon titans Yang and Kim - to launch a protest that's generated torrents of both support and criticism.

    The whole controversy might be trivial if it weren't for the fact that "Avatar" is a genuine pop-culture sensation, acclaimed by critics, adored by fans and, yes, wildly profitable.

    One reason Asian Americans such as Yang and Kim have been drawn into the show's orbit is that it has hit it big despite - many would say because of - its richly Asian-inspired setting. The core ideas are drawn from Hindu, Taoist and Buddhist philosophy; its character names - Aang, Katara, Toph Bei Fong - incorporate Chinese, Japanese and Southeast Asian phonemes; and its visual identity is modeled on traditional Asian iconography.

    So when the core cast of the "Avatar" movie was revealed, hard-core fans recoiled - not because the actors are mostly unknowns, drawn from open auditions across the country, but because, well, they're white.

    This is far from the first controversy regarding the casting of Asian roles with Caucasian actors. Last year saw an outcry over the "whitewashing" of "21," the film about blackjack prodigies whose real-life counterparts were a group of Asian American MIT undergrads. But for fans of "Avatar," this casting is an even greater affront, not least because the show's primary target audience is 6- to 11-year-olds - kids who may not know the specifics of its references but are undoubtedly aware of and attracted to its cultural origins.

    "These are kids growing up with manga," Kim says. "They're not only comfortable with Asian concepts, they're fascinated by them. To think that they won't come to a live-action version unless it's cast with white actors - that's really a shockingly ignorant viewpoint. These kids aren't watching Jackie Chan movies and thinking, 'Yikes! I wish he were a white guy!' "

    But here's where the plot begins to snarl. "Avatar" isn't meant to mirror existing Asian history, imagined future or mythological canon. It's clearly set in an original fantasy world - invented by two white Americans, Bryan Konietzko and Mike DiMartino. Many of the voice actors for the original series are white as well. And though the actors selected for the big-screen version are white, the director who chose those actors is one of the few top-tier Asian American filmmakers in Hollywood, M. Night Shyamalan.

    It's an object lesson in how hard it is to maintain claims of authenticity and cultural ownership in a world where boundaries are rapidly beginning to blur. If it's all right for white guys to come up with an "Asian" story and even voice it behind the scenes, why is it not all right for white guys (and girls) to portray that story onscreen?

    But there's more to the argument against the casting of "Avatar" than a claim to racial justification. In fact, it's arguably a more powerful case than the one against "21." The creators of the series have stated that the show was designed from the ground up as an elaborate homage to the culture, ideas and artists that they revered, an "epic, Asian, martial-arts fantasy/action/adventure/comedy/drama" celebrating the likes of anime legend Hayao Miyazaki.

    The movie "21" was a reimagining of real life, not a documentary, and thus free to remake truth in the pursuit of what its producers thought was commercially viable. By contrast, the "Avatar" movie is being presented as a direct translation of its source material - which by definition demands adherence to the series' internal, spiritual truth.

    It's hard to imagine the "Harry Potter" films working with characters that don't visually fit the books' British boarding school sensibility. "And I don't think it would've been true to the spirit of 'Lord of the Rings' if the movie hobbits had Asian features, given the strongly Anglo-Saxon tradition of those books," Yang notes.

    In short, these casting decisions ring false to the show's spirit; the very spirit that has transfixed millions of young fans and brought legions of Avatards together into a passionate community.

    "What frustrates us most is that you had this amazing opportunity - you've got a nation of fans who love this quintessentially Asian story," Kim says. "This could have broken down every barrier in the business, proving you can have an all-Asian cast and score three blockbuster successes. Instead, we just get three more chances to cringe."
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