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    Question Learning Martial Arts Solo???

    There aren't a lot of martial arts schools in my area other than Karate and TKD which I'm just not into at all, no offence to anyone who practices either art. I have been wanting to study a bit of Jeet Kune Do, my true passion though is Tai Chi, but I strongly believe in what Bruce Lee said about not confining one's self to one style. Anyway, is it possible to be called a student of Jeet Kune Do/learn Jeet Kune Do by yourself, from books and videos? What about Tai Chi, I keep hoping but I don't think it's possible to be a student of Tai Chi on your own is it?
    "Jeet Kune Do is the art not founded on technique or doctrine. It is just as you are." -Bruce Lee

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    The good news is, you can learn a lot on your own. The bad news is, it's pretty hard to improve if you don't have anyone to push you to improve and it's hard to know what works when you don't have anyone to test yourself with.

    It's kind of like learning a language. You can read books, listen to tapes, and make flash cards, but if you don't have another person to talk to, it's all just theory that exercises your brain. Same with the martial arts. Also, without an experienced practitioner to correct you, you're inevitably going to do some things poorly without knowing it.

    If you are pretty much set on training without a teacher/school, at least find someone you can work with regularly to test what you know. That said, if you have a least a basic MA background and know rudimentary body mechanics, you can still build good strength and reflexes with time and dedication on your own.

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    Thank you very much, the comparing it to learning a language made it ver clear. I would love to go to a school but since I can't I am going to try to learn all I can on my own in Jeet Kune Do and Tai Chi. I have 5 years of experience in TKD, so according to what you said that should help me a bit right?
    "Jeet Kune Do is the art not founded on technique or doctrine. It is just as you are." -Bruce Lee

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    Yes, it will help. Having a foundation to build upon is invaluable. Good luck.

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    find the best karate of tkd school in the area and go there. Is there a judo club in the area? the best training available is better than trying to self learn, even if it is not the style you are interested in. You will never actually be GOOD by trying to self teach yourself.

    Since you do have a base in something, you will be more likely to pick up on the subtleties of the motions and techniques, but it's not the same as learning under a competent teacher..
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    I suggest using videos from

    www.martialartsmart.net

    They are high quality
    Bless you

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    Quote Originally Posted by SevenStar View Post
    find the best karate of tkd school in the area and go there. Is there a judo club in the area? the best training available is better than trying to self learn, even if it is not the style you are interested in. You will never actually be GOOD by trying to self teach yourself.

    Since you do have a base in something, you will be more likely to pick up on the subtleties of the motions and techniques, but it's not the same as learning under a competent teacher..
    fully agreed

    not only that but training in the best you can and mixing it with what u already know

    to best fit you
    is the essence of JKD

    "the perfect form of self defence differs for each person" -bruce lee
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    I don't think he's asking if it would be "better" to train in a school rather than alone. It sounds like he does not want to study in the schools around him and he wants to know if it is worth the effort to self-study.

    I agree that it would be better for him to have people to work with and a teacher(s) to guide him, but he has already rejected that option. If he really doesn't want to go to one of the available schools, I would advise him to visit them and seek out people who would like to work with him on a regular basis so that he can practice what he is self-studying. They could meet in a park or at the Y or some other open space.

    I wouldn't say this is the best option ever, but I would disagree that he should go to a school he doesn't like to study and art he doesn't want to learn since he will only learn to dislike it more and be a real drag for the people he's working with. There is room for a compromise between having no contact with a martial arts school and being fully enrolled at one.

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    Take a look at this:
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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveMonkey View Post
    I don't think he's asking if it would be "better" to train in a school rather than alone. It sounds like he does not want to study in the schools around him and he wants to know if it is worth the effort to self-study.

    I agree that it would be better for him to have people to work with and a teacher(s) to guide him, but he has already rejected that option. If he really doesn't want to go to one of the available schools, I would advise him to visit them and seek out people who would like to work with him on a regular basis so that he can practice what he is self-studying. They could meet in a park or at the Y or some other open space.

    I wouldn't say this is the best option ever, but I would disagree that he should go to a school he doesn't like to study and art he doesn't want to learn since he will only learn to dislike it more and be a real drag for the people he's working with. There is room for a compromise between having no contact with a martial arts school and being fully enrolled at one.
    Thanks bravemonkey, that's exactly what I meant. I just don't like Karate or TKD, though I continue to study TKD for the exercise it's just not my cup of tea, so I am restricted to learning the arts I DO want to learn on my own. Thanks for the advice.

    Peace.
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    I wouldn't say this is the best option ever, but I would disagree that he should go to a school he doesn't like to study and art he doesn't want to learn since he will only learn to dislike it more and be a real drag for the people he's working with.
    I doubt he has fully investigated these other schools/styles. It sounds like he rejected them, not based on their own merit, but because they weren't part of his preconceived notion of what is "best". He doesn't want to train at these other schools because he is not open to the possibly that they have something good to offer.

    If he opened up his mind and gives them A genuine chance, he might be surprised.

    And what kind of community doesn't have Tai chi?
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    I am in agreement with the others and I would add one other piece of modern technology that may help get some more input - a camera (vid or digital) and your computer. Practicing infront of a big mirror helps, but looking at yourself can be distracting not to mention throw your posture off. However if you tape yourself and then play back for review and compare that to whatever notes/books/vids that you have, you'll have better feedback for yourself.

    If you can hook up with another person who knows a style of MA your are interested in, you can also correspond back and forth and send emails, etc...

    Peace,
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    am i missing something?

    you live in miami and you can't find a school?
    is there another miami?

    this guy teaches tai chi
    http://www.kungfuconnection.com/

    this guy does hung gar and from a good school too
    http://www.yeeshungga.com/miami/

    divine fist kung fu is in miami and they teach tai chi but they don't have a website.
    there are plenty more i am just strolling through miami's yellow pages. and i gurentee there are more that aren't advertised.

    i don't know naything about any of the schools so they might not be great. but if you want to learn tai chi it looks like you have a number of schools to choose from.

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    Quote Originally Posted by BraveMonkey View Post
    I don't think he's asking if it would be "better" to train in a school rather than alone. It sounds like he does not want to study in the schools around him and he wants to know if it is worth the effort to self-study.

    I agree that it would be better for him to have people to work with and a teacher(s) to guide him, but he has already rejected that option. If he really doesn't want to go to one of the available schools, I would advise him to visit them and seek out people who would like to work with him on a regular basis so that he can practice what he is self-studying. They could meet in a park or at the Y or some other open space.

    I wouldn't say this is the best option ever, but I would disagree that he should go to a school he doesn't like to study and art he doesn't want to learn since he will only learn to dislike it more and be a real drag for the people he's working with. There is room for a compromise between having no contact with a martial arts school and being fully enrolled at one.
    who says that's what will happened? I didn't want to start taking longfist kung fu - I had been training jkd and muay thai. After I started longfist though, I liked it. I'm back in muay thai now, but I didn't dislike kung fu, nor did training it make me dislike it more. He won't know until he tries it. instruction is better than video any day. I would rather have real, instructor taught karate training than learn by video kung fu training for a number of reasons.
    i'm nobody...i'm nobody. i'm a tramp, a bum, a hobo... a boxcar and a jug of wine... but i'm a straight razor if you get to close to me.

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    I will punch, kick, choke, throw or joint manipulate any nationality equally without predjudice.

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