Jackie Chan's Disciples

[tug]

Since it's tv for the masses, I would think it'd be hard to sell serious MMA, but since it's growing somewhat exponentially in popularity, hopefully it won't be too long...

Thank god for UFC, K1 and Pride. (and Spike for promoting it so)

Any thoughts on IFL I haven't noticed yet? A fiance of a friend of mine is training with them, and is extremely avid about it. Looks like plain ol' brawlin' IMO.

[grlyncher99]

Gene could pass for 28. He could. A badly worn and tired 28, but 28! We'll dip him in some rioixin or skin tightener or whatever it's called. And the we'll get him entered on the Disciple! Start photoshopping that birth certificate today.

Oh wait, good moral values and habits. That might be a problem . . .

[tug]

I'll throw in for it...

[GeneChing]

...but 2006 was a rough one and I've aged a lot since then.

Sorry Lueb, Jackie is only making this show open to people of Asian descent. No German wrasslers allowed.

[Shaolinlueb]

Sorry Lueb, Jackie is only making this show open to people of Asian descent. No German wrasslers allowed.

thats ****ing ghey and racist. oh well, looks like i will have to make it in hong kong on my own then.

[GeneChing]

I was wondering when someone would comment on that. It's tricky and raises a lot of questions. Since it's a specific audition for a show, when you do auditions, there is always a specific demographic. Is that racist? Can you cast white guys for Asian roles and vice versa? Remember what happened with Joel Grey in Remo Williams. Were there any Asian or Black competitors for Grease: You're the one that I want and if so, how did they do? I didn't watch that show at all so I have no idea.

I'm not seeking to defend this. I'm just curious since it's somewhat uncharted territory and I think it's worth some exploration here. At least Jackie didn't call anyone nappy-headed hos.

[5Animals1Path]

At least Jackie didn't call anyone nappy-headed hos.

I kinda wish he would've. Maybe then the show'd make it to basic cable just for the fuss ratings.

[neilhytholt]

I was wondering when someone would comment on that. It's tricky and raises a lot of questions. Since it's a specific audition for a show, when you do auditions, there is always a specific demographic. Is that racist? Can you cast white guys for Asian roles and vice versa? Remember what happened with Joel Grey in Remo Williams. Were there any Asian or Black competitors for Grease: You're the one that I want and if so, how did they do? I didn't watch that show at all so I have no idea.

I'm not seeking to defend this. I'm just curious since it's somewhat uncharted territory and I think it's worth some exploration here. At least Jackie didn't call anyone nappy-headed hos.

It seems like the racist thing is kindof wrong, in a way. It doesn't seem like you can really completely ignore what people look like and where they come from, especially when you're trying to market to a particular demographic.

Saying that people are somehow inherently worse because they come from some place or are some race would be racism, but trying to find an Asian star for a largely Asian demographic doesn't seem like racism.

So the 'nappy' thing definitely would be sexist or racist because he used a derogatory term (not nappy), but looking for an Asian star doesn't seem to be the same thing.

Does that make sense?

Of course, there's probably a lot of martial arts people who will think this is unfair. Given the Western fetish, if you will, of a large portion of young Asians, it seems like it actually might be a bit of a mistake to discount a non-Asian star.

[wr2]

Oh and I invite you all to come see my families school where I was grown up and raised... southcoastmartialarts.com

[GeneChing]

I just did a quick scan and didn't see this already posted. If it's redundant, then my bad. At least you can see the Disciple finalists here.

[GeneChing]

Here's an exclusive extra from our JULY+AUGUST 2015 Cover Story. Read Jack Tu: Jackie Chan’s Disciple in 2015: Part 1: Eye on the Gate by Gene Ching.

[GeneChing]

Here's an exclusive extra from our JULY+AUGUST 2015 Cover Story. Read Jack Tu: Jackie Chan’s Disciple in 2015: Part 2: Chollywood by Gene Ching.