shaolin-do and video comparisons to non-sd version

[oasis]

decided to start a new thread after leto's and sal's discussion of a form. with youtube video discussions and comparisons are fun and a lot easier, so i thought i'd put out a few links for sders to discuss more specifics. it should hopefully be interesting.

first, here are four roads of hua quan to view and compare to sd (not necessarily the performance but similarity/differences in technique and style)

road 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67acdZcvnHA

road 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAH2Y...elated&search=

road 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW7tU...elated&search=

and road 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq3f_by1GJQ

has anyone studied sd's 'pick and play mantis'? if so, compare to this:
this is one road of zhai yao from praying mantis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4S3PNzfTWg

enjoy

[Leto]

That is very very close to pick and play mantis I learned from master The. The first ten or fifteen moves are identical. a few things have different emphasis, and there's some different techniques that we don't have. But that is the form, without a doubt. If that is just one road of the form, then GM The only teaches one road of it.
I have heard that different styles of mantis have their own variation of this form. do you know what mantis school that video is from?

[tattooedmonk]

decided to start a new thread after leto's and sal's discussion of a form. with youtube video discussions and comparisons are fun and a lot easier, so i thought i'd put out a few links for sders to discuss more specifics. it should hopefully be interesting.

first, here are four roads of hua quan to view and compare to sd (not necessarily the performance but similarity/differences in technique and style)

road 1:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=67acdZcvnHA

road 2:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LAH2Y...elated&search=

road 3:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DW7tU...elated&search=

and road 4:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rq3f_by1GJQ

has anyone studied sd's 'pick and play mantis'? if so, compare to this:
this is one road of zhai yao from praying mantis
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T4S3PNzfTWg

enjoy

are these the SD versions??

[oasis]

not at all. those are clips from traditional hua quan, but i'm sure those who have learned sd hua will see some interesting similarities. i thought this thread can be a spot for people to discuss those forms they've tried to research and for which they've found similar versions from outside the system.

[oasis]

regarding zhao yao in the clip, i believe this is the seven star (qi xing) version. i've also seen the taiji mei hua version a while back and it was just as similar, but with the mei hua flavor. i think there are 3 or 4 roads. zhao yao means essentials.

[kwaichang]

All 4 are very similar to SD Hua and Mantis, The 3rd road especially. KC

[Judge Pen]

I can call off the hua move for move. A couple of stylistic differences. Like in the 2nd and 4th roads, we do not catch oursleves with our hands on the drop kicks. Things like that.