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[BoulderDawg]

csc has no franchise costs.

How would you know that for sure? I sure would not let them use my intellectual property(name) or say that I'm associated with CSC unless I got a little something.

[John Many Jars]

I seem to remember Master Sharon saying as much a year or so ago. They also said GMT doesn't collect franchise fees (from CSC). Just what they make from the grand master festivals.

[kungfujunky]

i know that because i have asked.

they make their money from testing and festivals.

[Leto]

I think the CSC instructors may sign some kind of contract. I know the official assistant instructors do, indicating that they will not do drugs or drink alcohol, will not be a member of another martial arts school, and some other stuff I don't remember now. In the Springs, our instructor got the paperwork and material for the assistant instructor contracts from them, so I know they use it in Denver/Boulder. The school owners/instructors need to attend the annual or bi-annual instructor training with the Soards, which is probably where they would sign such a thing. I don't know if the instructor contract might give the Soards the power to take a CSC school away from someone who breaks the rules. Probably not, but they of course have the power to strip someone of their rank and tell them that they legally can't call the school CSC anymore.

[Judge Pen]

I think the CSC instructors may sign some kind of contract. I know the official assistant instructors do, indicating that they will not drink alcohol.

That would disqualify me.

[godzillakungfu]

That would disqualify me.

Its taken out of context.

It has more to do with things in the past. Let's say it is more to do with an Instructor getting drunk with students than having a few at home.

There are no franchise fees, as in intellectual property, as BD is saying. If you combine what Leto and BD are saying you are on the right track.

I'll continue to lurk correcting what I can.

No, possible lawsuits for me thank you.

[Radhnoti]

No franchise fees for my old school in KY (3 yrs ago). GM Sin charged testing fees on a sliding scale that increased as you progressed. The only thing I found odd about THAT was it was cash only. I showed up for my first belt test with my check book and had to scramble to put together the cash to test.
We were encouraged to attend GM Sin's seminars and, once, to donate for a car. Nothing too scandalous in my opinion.
Hope everyone is doing well.

[Meat Shake]

"I'd like to thank meatshake and sunfist for providing their asinine opinions without bringing any real substance to the topic at hand. You guys are great!"

Read my other threads smart guy. I trained SD for two years before I decided my time would be better spent fighting.
Hooray for more kids and women getting fit, Im just tired of hearing about deadly tiger style and drunken kung fu...
Its like when someone tells me they have a blackbelt in TKD... Its just kind of a joke at this point.

[Baqualin]

"I'd like to thank meatshake and sunfist for providing their asinine opinions without bringing any real substance to the topic at hand. You guys are great!"

Read my other threads smart guy. I trained SD for two years before I decided my time would be better spent fighting.
Hooray for more kids and women getting fit, Im just tired of hearing about deadly tiger style and drunken kung fu...
Its like when someone tells me they have a blackbelt in TKD... Its just kind of a joke at this point.

Ok smarter guy...2 years means nothing other than SD might not be for you....doesn't make what you do better only better for you. You also seem typical of alot of people on these forums...if your not doing what I do, YOUR WRONG and that my friend is an asinine opinion. Your full of yourself.
Have a Nice Day
BQ

[Golden Tiger]

No franchise fees for my old school in KY (3 yrs ago). GM Sin charged testing fees on a sliding scale that increased as you progressed. The only thing I found odd about THAT was it was cash only. I showed up for my first belt test with my check book and had to scramble to put together the cash to test.
We were encouraged to attend GM Sin's seminars and, once, to donate for a car. Nothing too scandalous in my opinion.
Hope everyone is doing well.

I am doing fine Rad, thanks for asking

As far as the Ky area goes, there has never been a franchise fee. You were given a "franchise" area meaning that no other SD teachers could start a school within 20-30 miles but that was it. To be given the option to teach, you did have to agree to allow Master Sin to test your students and collect a test fee (was like $20 for ever then turned into the sliding scale Rad mentioned just a few years ago), and were asked to purchase the uniforms and equipment through the lex gym. I say asked because I always got mine through AWMA and no one ever said anything to me.

Teachers were also encouraged to get their students to attend the tournements and seminars and to join the SDA but it was never manditory. Heck, I joined it but only one or two of my students ever did.

The car donation was for his 60?? b-day I think. I wish people thought enough of me to buy me a freakin car! The one he had here that was used to visit the schools out and about was close to falling apart.

As for the cash only deal, there might be other reasons but the main one was that he would come in to test the students, then return to Cali. When he would try to cash the checks, EVERY time, there would be 4 or 5 that bounced. He would then have to send them to the gym, or to the students instructors and have to get someone to track down the money. Having taught in a few different towns than the one I lived in, it happened to me more times than I can count and I too went over to a cash only deal. Heck, now a lot of stores wont take checks anymore so I feel we were just ahead of the curve.

And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks

[brucereiter]

And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks

i am looking forward to seeing/learning it ... next year i guess ...

[Baqualin]

And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks

I'm still sore from it It was an awesome day
BQ

[BM2]

And since no one else has mentioned it, Liu Sing rocks[/QUOTE]

No pun intended? It is nice.

[BoulderDawg]

As for the cash only deal, there might be other reasons but the main one was that he would come in to test the students, then return to Cali. When he would try to cash the checks, EVERY time, there would be 4 or 5 that bounced. He would then have to send them to the gym, or to the students instructors and have to get someone to track down the money. Having taught in a few different towns than the one I lived in, it happened to me more times than I can count and I too went over to a cash only deal. Heck, now a lot of stores wont take checks anymore so I feel we were just ahead of the curve.

NSF checks have always been a fact of life and a part of doing business. However in the last 10 years I think this has become less of a problem. There is better tracking and communication. Also most people use debit cards these days instead of checks.

My question would be 4-5 bounced checked out of how many? Given the situation I would very surprised if I had that many out of 500 checks. The main reason is because of the business. Most students would not give you a NSF check. They would like to continue in the program but probably would not be allowed if they did not make the check good. Also it's just too expensive. I charge $35 for a bounced check. Put this with the bank charges and that runs into some serious money. I also run any NSF checks through twice so if it bounces twice.......

Personally I carry very little money. If a debit card or check is not good enough for you then we usually don't do business. A "cash only" basis sheds a bad light on your business no matter the reason. And if the business is large enough it will soon attract the attention of Uncle Sam.

[Golden Tiger]

If a debit card or check is not good enough for you then we usually don't do business. A "cash only" basis sheds a bad light on your business no matter the reason. And if the business is large enough it will soon attract the attention of Uncle Sam.

Then we probably wouldn't. I don't carry much if any cash these days myself unless I know that I will need it. And if someone knows months ahead of time that the need to have 30 or 40 dollars in cold hard cash, I don't see how that is a problem.

And when you consider that he travels to about 20 small towns through out Ky testing, the feasibility of carrying a CC machine kinda goes out the window.