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what does taiji actually look like during a fight? from what ive seen it seems to be alot of pushing or throws, mainly defensive....i cant say ive seen it done in an actual fight so im not sure what the mechanixcs of taiji fighting actually looks like. anyone?
Coiling Dragon
It always looks just like this, there are no exceptions.
http://youtube.com/watch?v=0W1ym3yggR4
Up and down, forward and backward, left and right, its all the same. All of this is done with the mind, not externaly.
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Shaped dragon and looking monkey, sitting tiger and turning eagle.
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Looks like fighting.
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to generalize...
Throw wise, tend to be more into An or Lu onto the ground, or Peng Ji towards walls and objects. Can be coupled with trapping footwork.
Strike wise, use of hammers (I don't like to call them fists), elbows and shoulder strikes. All the strikes has a strike through component which mean strikes also work as throws.
Chin-na may also be included in some schools.
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John
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'sup, mix! whatchoo doing over here?Originally Posted by mixjourneyman
to answer the question--what looks like pushes from the form is the "nice" way to do the application. if you need to fu<k the guy up, you could just as easily make that push into a strike with a fist or open hand.
Originally Posted by Lee Chiang Po
You then walk backwards, forcing him off his feet and then drag him by the eye socket and lips. You can pull so hard that the lips tear away. You will never hear such screaming.
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Ahahahahahah!
One of my most favorite clips ever!
Now, if you want to see actual fighting with it, there's this:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=9hDrXfSKIjQ
I must warn you. I got the DVD. I've studied it, practiced it, learned a crapload from it and am still learning tons from it, but...in my opinion...watching paint dry is literally more entertaining than seeing 2 highly trained taiji people fight, even during this type of practice (and at fighting speed). This goes with even Earle during his 'big' phase.
I understand the point, but there's absolutely no way you can have a hollywood movie successful with fighting like this, which isn't the point of the form, but still. Some get a kick out of watching people spar and sometimes I do, but not with this.
Entertainment: No. Informative for fighting: Yes.
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Ummmmm, that was not fighting, that was a two man set.
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Ummmmm, that was not fighting, that was a two man set.
Eh, it's the closest I could find.
Hey I think "Chi" is real
Some clips can be found on this site:
http://www.oxfordtaichi.com/lotus_sweep.0.html
and
http://www.oxfordtaichi.com/brush_knee.0.html
Some striking here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yLjQPpTaqCQ
Tai chi guys in the black....its me btw.
And another full fight here.....both of us are from tai chi....im the small guy.
http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?...me+in+san+shou
LOL.. really, what else did you hear?.. did you hear that he was voted Man of the Year by Kung-Fu Magizine?
I'll post a clip soon of some Taiji that I incorporated into a match this past summer. It is very subtle. If you are doing Lu energy you are stealing your opponents energy by neutralizing it. It makes it so he has to work a lot harder than you do.
FP
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Let's not forget Ng vs Chan
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that guys reach advantage looked really annoying
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That was just awesome!
Here's the thread. Tell me if you can see any Chen Taiji in there.
http://ezine.kungfumagazine.com/foru...ad.php?t=45290
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Some questions regarding that clip:
1- What percentage of your training do you do in which the techniques, applications, and speed are similar to those seen on that clip?
2- How long had both you and your opponent been training when that competition occurred?
3- Would you say that match is representative of how "good" (whatever your definition of that is) tai chi would look in combat?
4- Were you getting points every time your opponent went outside the red area?
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