TUF Season 4 question

[TenTigers]

"I nominate Sifu TT: he is fair, experienced, knows all parties and maintains a neutral relationship, at least publically; he can even wear his Speedos...

would that be agreeable to all ?"

um..ok.hmmm, let's see, I'll need my black and white referee shirt, speedos, a whistle.....

that being said, if you are serious, call me.

[lkfmdc]

This isn't about a referee, yesterday one of Green CLoud's conditions was that there would be NO REF...

BUt today he's got all new reasons why he can't fight. He needs a special referee, he needs special legal papers drawn up, everyone hates him and he can't have his 27 armed guard escort

His conditions change so much it's probably just hard to remember them all

This isn't about the "day" Didn't you read his posts? He first said that I'd never agree. As soon as I logged back on, I agreed. Dear lord, this sack of pig poop bet Knifefighter $50 I'd never agree and even though I IMMEDIATELY agreed he didn't even honor that bet

This isn't about the "day" or he wouldn't make up ridiculous claims about how he needs to wear shoes to pad his hip. He wouldn't make ridiculous comments about clothing. He wouldn't bring up stuff that not only has nothing to do with the situation but isn't even true.

Let's review; his friend Noran he didn't even spell his name correctly, isn't a chiropractor and I wasn't the guy who rented him space

Green Cloud issues challenges and then backs out as soon as they are accepted. This isn't the first time, he ran away from Knifefighter.

I'll chip in with Mike, Knife fighter, I'll help pay for you to come out here so you can fight Gus. As a dog brother and BJJ black belt, I figure after the 1 minute match maybe we can work out and it would be good for me and Mike

Let's review again; I accepted his challenge the minute I logged back on here. I'm also probably the only person on this forum who has a documented accepted challenge. No one remembers that I accepted and FOUGHT Mao Shan? And Mao Shan and Black Taoist are well known FIGHTERS unlike Gus.

This isn't about the DAY. One minute he said all I had to do was name the day and time. I did and he ACCEPTED. Less than 4 hours later he suddenly had a problem with the day

This isn't about the DAY . When he called me he said some punk arse crap about how this had escalated from a misunderstanding. There was no "misunderstanding", he talked trash and I called him on it.

This isn't about the DAY, it's about the fact that Gus Kaparos is a liar. He spent very little time with CTS, had NO MEMORY, that was his nickname! He forgot everything CTS taught him and now just makes crap up so he can run his McDojo (sorry, McKwoon).

No one in the CTS lineage likes Gus, we all think he's a fraud and a hack who makes us look bad.

One day Gus posted a "story" on the Chan Tai San thread, Mike, Chris and I let it go but Innocenzi (who runs his school in mine) came in that day and said "man, is Gus fool of crap or what!"

When Gus tries to call Ventura, Ventura uses what he calls the "Jedi mind trick"... he doesn't want to talk to Gus and waste his time so he distracts him and says "uh, let's get chicken wings some time but I got to go".... Gus always says "chicken wings" and makes the Homer Simpson sound

[Green Cloud]

Ok heres my final post on this matter, In the MA world no one respects these guys.

They have done nothing to promote CMA except hurt the arts.

Mike perrale is ****ed at me for several reasons,, For one thing all his Black belts come running to me when they realize they have been taken advantage by him.

I mean all his Black belts are my students now.

After running his Merrick School into the ground and and swindeling all your clients, Me and one of hus Black Belts Ivan came and took his school over,,Ouch I can see how that would make you mad.

The only Kung Fu tournament you ever attended (5 tigers) all the students you brought were trained by other instructors,,, when I asked his student "hey who taught you that rope dart set?? He said i taught it to my self.

Their are dozens of people that you screwd over with your crappy lazy Kung Fu and lets not forget the money that you stole from people.

Let's see you owe me $20,000 Mike Denecola let you use his credit card 10,000 bucks, Brandon he let you use his credit to open a school,,ouch 100,000 thousand bucks. Should I keep going??? And now your going to fok ove Law ga liang.

Dave Ross,,, hmm I don't know where to begin he's fat ugly lazy mellon head. The guys that he calls his fighters already knew how to fight but stick with dave because he's a promoter and he can get them fights that's all,, I have tossed him on his ass many of times, Just watch the video clips of his one and only San Da fight. He didn't just loose he got thrown out of the ring like a rag Doll

I can keep going the only thing these guys have over me is they have more stuff on video than me. Watching vedios contary to popular belief doesn't make you good, case in point his Donut prctice style.

The fact is any therapyst, can analize the anger in these guys because they wasted their time eating a bag of donuts for 14 years while I have always folowed my teachers request to keep my students competing in traditional competition and keep his name alive.

How is this relevent, well in the make believe buuble the internet where these guys actual rule with their verbal Chess and cutting and pasting asthey are soo good at distorting the truth.

here's my point look at how angry these guys are as they have to gand up on me and I'm flattered for all the attention but it the MA world even the commercial MA world they are hated despised and made fun of.

As far as my rep ask around,, you wont't get one legimate Sifu that will ever have anything bad to say about me.

Not to mention on the east coast when it comes to my Sifu's Kung Fu I'm the one that who is recognized for promoting my Sifu's Ideal.

Go ahead ask Sifu Yim Tai or Sifu Yee, or Sifu Wong, or Sifu Derrick Jhonson, Sifu Hoy lee, Sifu Dixon, George Crayton and dozens of other real reputable sifus out there.

Sure I tend to be out spoken at times sure I have ****ed people off by being brutely honest, and I can understand how sometimes the truth hurts.

Both Mike and Ross have only been concerned with the almighty dollor and have made a mockery of my teachers Kung Fu, while I on the other hand have been out there promoting and teaching My sifu's ways.

Am I the best no but for some reason these guys are all mad and jelous of me.

I have not been affiliated or even been around these guys for over 17 years, instead I chose to suround my self with honorable people who believe in the Ideals and virtues of the CMA.

Not like my training brothers who saw the $$$ sighnes and decided to take what CTS taught them out of the window so they can make a quik Buck off other peoples efforts.

The only thing I'm gulty of here is not having as good internet fu skills as my disgruntal untalented lazy shady training brothers and I must admitt I am out of my element in the make believe worls of the internet.

But I guess if you want to believe what these guys are selling that's your choice,


As far as the challenge is concerned I just wanted it move up one day to saturday that's all in my training brothers EYES lupoles count as wins

[lkfmdc]

Ok heres my final post on this matter

His final post because he can't think of any more excuses why he can't fight....

In the MA world no one respects these guys.

I'm doing a show this weekend at Mohegan Sun casino. I have done two world san da championships. I've promoted sold out shows in NY since 1994. I was a national advisor to the USA WKF. I am certified by both NACMAF and the EAST COAST FEDERATION. I am on the USKBA executive board. I"ve trained over 16 national champions and 3 world champions.

You run a McKwoon in the middle of no where. YOu brought three students to the 5 tiger event, it was NOT full contact, it was continuous point, and all three of your students lost. I checked

YOu're a liar. YOu can't answer a single question asked here. 10 black belts? YOu have said you have one, what about the other nine?

Dave Ross,,, The guys that he calls his fighters already knew how to fight

We just established above that you are a liar, so can you cite any evidence of the above absurd claim?

I suggest to anyone who has a chance, ASK one of my students who taught them to fight... they'll tell you two things (1) I did and (2) that Gus is a liar and an idiot

My students watched Gus' students "fight" in Atlantic city and said "what is that crap? He says he has the same teacher?"

The fact is any therapyst,

NOw you're a qualified mental health professional?

If anyone needs therapy, it would be you, deluded and living in lies

they have to gand up on me

I assume you mean "gang"

Maybe everyone isn't ganging up on you, but rather is tired of your lies and frauds. Why is not a single CTS student associates with you?

Both Mike and Ross have only been concerned with the almighty dollor

YOu're the one who made a challenge and now can't accept because you can't re-schedule a few private lessons

Do you charge students to learn at your school? If you aren't in it for the "almighty dollar" why not offer FREE CLASSES

Attention all Green Cloud KUng Fu students, effective today all your classes are free (that is what they are worth anyway)

these guys are all mad and jelous of me.

I guarantee I make 10 times what you make. And I haven't had to close 5 of my schools. I guarantee I am higher profile and better known than you, especially where it counts, the fighting world...

You're deluded and living in a fantasy land. Seek help

I have not been affiliated or even been around these guys for over 17 years,

We all dis-owned you because you are a liar and a fraud

Chris Jurak reminded us of one of your MANY lies yesterday. When we first met you, you said you studied monkey with an old CHinese man in central park. YOu said you studied with him for 10 years but didn't know his name (it was a "secret") and didn't have any pictures of him.... But funny thing, that story isn't any where around now is it???

Maybe that's because your high school buddy Chris Bruce showed up at the Mineola school and told us all how he and you made up the monkey forms after watching shaw brothers movies and there was no old man in th park

I also remember when you showed your monkey to CTS. He said he had no idea what you were supposed to be doing

How are you holding up CTS kung fu when you don't remember any of it and don't teach any of it? Mr "MO GEI SING" (no memory). That was CTS name for you, we all know it

Hey, you don't even speak Chinese. Of ALL the disciples who studied with CTS why are you the ONLY ONE who didn't learn? Maybe because you spent so little time with him, maybe also because you were too lazy to learn? But if you couldnt' even communicate with the man, how do you have any idea what he "wanted you to do"?

The only thing you seem to have "mastered" is fabrication and evasion

Sorry, big words, have someone look them up for you

[CLFLPstudent]

Mike perrale is ****ed at me for several reasons,, For one thing all his Black belts come running to me when they realize they have been taken advantage by him.

I mean all his Black belts are my students now.

This is absolutely untrue. I, along with many others who tested along with Ivan for their Black Sashes, are still with Sifu Parrella. As well as the clas that tested after us. Only Ivan is with you as far as I know ( I have been training under Sifu Parrella for 12 years). I don't know where you are getting your facts - who was trained by other instructors at 5 Tigers? We are ALL trained by Sifu Parrella.

Tell me names of all of these Black Sashes who ran to you - I have been training with Sifu Parrella since Mineola, I can tell you if you are correct.

-David

[lkfmdc]

A complete disection of the fraud known as Gus Kaparos

Entered into evidence, his own web site http://www.greencloud.net/

For man who accused me of "selling out", his web site title reads "Kickboxing and Personal Training"

On the home page, he also claims to teach "Krav Maga"? Did Chan Tai San teach Krav Maga?

This is the content of the home page

"Come to Green Cloud Kung Fu where we can teach you Kung-Fu, kickboxing, and the martial arts weapons...."

So he has "sold out" and is teaching "kickboxing"? ANd why didn't he mention the Krav Maga (it's at the bottom of the page)... and what are "martial arts weapons"? Aren't the weapons he teaching part of his kung fu system?

"The revered master adopted a young American boy and passed down his lineage to the man we now call Sifu Kaparos."

Gus was in his mid to late 20's when he met Chan Tai San. I've met Gus' parents, he is NOT an orphan. Sifu Chan didn't adopt him and did't raise him, a story ALL of Gus' students tell.

"the man we now call Sifu Kaparos" ??

At one point Gus' name wasn't "Kararos"? Is he fleeing criminal charges in another state? Perhaps for fraud?

"Sifu Kaparos has achieved Master ranking in this system and also holds 10 black belts in other systems of martial arts."

What arts does he hold black belts in? Who gave him the black belts? What evidence is there that he actually earned these titles?

"The winner of several national titles and the feature of numerous national publications"

Gus competed ONCE in all the time I know him. In San Francisco at Tat Mau WOng's. He did not place. In fact, he did a flying kick and lost his blance and landed flat on his back. Mike Parrella can confirm

WHat national publications was he in? WHere are copies for us to examine?

"Sifu Kaparos has been nominated to the Kung-Fu Hall of Fame"

What hall of fame? Please show us where we can verify this? Is this an organization where if you write the check and attend the banquet you can get in the "hall of fame"?

"Sifu Kaparos is the head of Green Cloud in the U.S."

Green Cloud is his school, it only exists in the US. In fact, we know now that the monastery is CLEAR CLOUD, not Green Cloud. The statment is obviously true, he's head of his own school, but very deceptive and misleading

More from the web site in question;

http://www.greencloud.net/969717.html

Gus claims to teach and to have learned from Chan Tai San the following
San Shou
Chin Na
Pankration
Nanchuan
Nok Fei Pai
Mok Ga

Well, I sold out for running a San Shou school, I'm not teaching CTS kung fu, but it seems that when it's conveinant Gus claims to do San Shou

Chin Na is not a style, it is a skill set within a style, and CTS always insisted so

Pankration? CTS taught Gus Pankration... yeah, sure

Nanchuan? Contemporary Wushu? The defended of TMA doing Nanchuan? Worse yet, claiming he got it from CTS..

GUs did NOT learn Nok Fei Pai from CTS. THe ONLY person that did was Noran, the same person Gus tried to drag into the other thread... another instance of Gus lying his butt off

Mok Ga... again, CTS never taught Gus Mok Ga... Stephen Laurette and Chi Yu were the only students to learn it

http://www.greencloud.net/949615.html

"The name Green Cloud in Chinese is Chin Whan Ji, which means Young Cloud Monastery or sometimes called Lyk Whan Ji."

The fact that Gus doesn't even know the correct Chinese names for "Green Cloud" is directly related to the fact he never learned to speak CHinese. He is the ONLY disciple of CTS who did not learn ANY Chinese... Of couse, since CTS didn't speak English, this is why Gus learned so little, he could not communicate with CTS in any way...

"Unlike other martial arts schools, we are just an extension of the Green Cloud Monastery, which is still in Toisan China"

How are you an extension of the monastery? They don't even know you exist! Hey, there isn't even a "Green Cloud"! It's "clear cloud"...

False advertising, and of course, playing into the McDojo image

http://www.greencloud.net/969726.html
http://www.greencloud.net/969727.html

A great example of why Gus talks out his butt... talks crap about me yet can copy word for word my writings and put them up on his web site

[djcaldwell]

The only Kung Fu tournament you ever attended (5 tigers) all the students you brought were trained by other instructors,,, when I asked his student "hey who taught you that rope dart set?? He said i taught it to my self.

David (CLFP) - he is obviously talking about Frank but it's so easy to tell bits of story's and half truths. Yes Frank taught himself..."That Form" It was an open weapons division was it not? He's been working on that Rope dart form since Battle of the Boardwalk and Sifu helped him along with it. The development of the form demonstrated his talent. I've seen him work with Sifu on rope dart just like he's working on other things now. So let's not mix up facts here.

Their are dozens of people that you screwd over with your crappy lazy Kung Fu and lets not forget the money that you stole from people.

Let's see you owe me $20,000 Mike Denecola let you use his credit card 10,000 bucks, Brandon he let you use his credit to open a school,,ouch 100,000 thousand bucks. Should I keep going??? And now your going to fok ove Law ga liang.

First of all it's Lau Kar-Leung - you may want to get names right if you're going to use them. Funny though I'm involved in that project personally and having met Lau Sifu myself as well as the whole Lau Family in HK and I assure you no one is getting screwed. So please speak of what you know first hand not rumors or stories. Mind you Lau's top student Mark Houghton is here in NY right now. So if you have any questions I'm sure he'd be happy to oblige.

Not to mention on the east coast when it comes to my Sifu's Kung Fu I'm the one that who is recognized for promoting my Sifu's Ideal.

Go ahead ask Sifu Yim Tai or Sifu Yee, or Sifu Wong, or Sifu Derrick Jhonson, Sifu Hoy lee, Sifu Dixon, George Crayton and dozens of other real reputable sifus out there.

This is funny - Crayton was at our school in March working out with a bunch of other Sifu's at our school who's names I won't drag into this mess. While in HK I heard 1st hand about other things you mention but really it's not my place nor yours for that matter to bring these up. [Mo Gong Si Fei]

What I can bring up is this Gus, from all the people that I know in MA community on the East coast and there are several trust me (and not just in CMA circles) - I have not heard anything poor about my Sifu (outside of rumors you started). The truth is that almost everyone (and you can't please the world) who heard of, met and or knows him - not only respect but actually like him. Funny thing is...I've heard them mention his other training brothers but I never had anyone mention of you at all. Oh and one of those people knew Sigong personally as well - so it's kind of funny to me to read your statement.

Both Mike and Ross have only been concerned with the almighty dollor and have made a mockery of my teachers Kung Fu, while I on the other hand have been out there promoting and teaching My sifu's ways.

Wow I must be at the wrong school. But seeing as my former Sifu had trained with Sifu Parrella for a while to expand his knowledge, as did several of my training brothers. Now I have been here for a couple of years and can to say that that statement holds no merit. As well as anyone who met Sifu will say that his KF is no joke.

The only thing I'm gulty of here is not having as good internet fu skills as my disgruntal untalented lazy shady training brothers and I must admitt I am out of my element in the make believe worls of the internet.

But I guess if you want to believe what these guys are selling that's your choice,

Trust me your internet /tounge fu skills are excellent.

I've studied KF for going on 17 years and I I'm far from great but I don't consider myself the fool either. Both Sifu Parrella and Ross have a great deal to offer and anyone who knows something about KF knows that they know there stuff. Ross is a great coach and I've seen his training methods and funny Gus even one of your top students, running or managing one of your schools went to SiBok's training seminars and spoke it's praises here and on other forums. Guess he found something he was missing there?

That's my 2cents anyway.

[lkfmdc]

funny Gus even one of your top students, running or managing one of your schools went to SiBok's training seminars and spoke it's praises here and on other forums. Guess he found something he was missing there?

DJ, you can just call me David, but you know that, you've trained at the school

Thanks for the kind words, and for pointing that little fact out to the man now know as Mr Kaparos

[CLFLPstudent]

David (CLFLP) - he is obviously talking about Frank but it's so easy to tell bits of story's and half truths. Yes Frank taught himself..."That Form" It was an open weapons division was it not? He's been working on that Rope dart form since Battle of the Boardwalk and Sifu helped him along with it. The development of the form demonstrated his talent. I've seen him work with Sifu on rope dart just like he's working on other things now. So let's not mix up facts here.

I just want to know who all of these Black Sashes who ran to him are. The only one I can think of is Ivan - and I don't know if Ivan would say he 'ran' to Gus.

And who was taught by other teachers at 5 Tigers? I guess it stuff like this that get's others mad at Gus.

-David

[lkfmdc]

Let's be fair and NOT drag Ivan into this. From what I understand he is very much his own man. Unlike Gus, he's very open minded, he studied with the Serra brothers and is now I think certified under Bas Rutten

I also heard from a first hand witness that when Gus wanted to show Ivan his version of "ground work" that Ivan tapped him like a cheap typewritter

[Lama Pai Sifu]

Gus, you are inaccurate. You have exaggertaded and made up claims. Mike Denicola (again, you are a spelling retard) did not lend me any money, nor did I use his credit card. Write one more incorrect slanderous thing about me and you'll be hearing from my attorney. And I know you are too broke d1ck poor to even defend yourself in a court of law.

But if you think you can just say and print lies and anything you want about me and get away with it, think again. It is obvious that your remarks are created to attempt to hurt or take away my business. You wish me malice and are writing libel statements against me. Get ready to prove them, because you are not allowed, by law, to just write what you please and lie about others. I intend on vendicating myself against your B.S. statements.

The difference between you and me is that all the sh1t that I said, IS TRUE. And verifiable from witnesses. You however, have decided to cast dispersions and make up lies.

And all my Black Belts train with you? Hardly. I think Mike Franco moved way out to suffolk and took some classes with you. When last we spoke, he laughed at you and told me how bad your forms were. And at what an immature hot head he said you were. Do you remember how ****ed you got about it?

And my ex-student Ivan is under your GREEN CLOUD banner. That would make TWO STUDENTS. I have promoted over 75 black belts. HOW MANY HAVE YOU PROMOTED????? How about this: NONE. You even told me at the 5 tigers tourny to my face, when I asked you how come you haven't given anyone a black belt, you said; "I'm never going to give anyone a black belt. Once you give them a black belt, they'll leave. I like to string them along." Remember that? I hope your students are reading. And I was specifically asking about the ones that were there who had trained for several years.

No wonder why you can't take off a day and fight Dave. YOU CAN'T AFFORD TO! Once students realize that they are never going to get a black belt with you, they leave. You don't have enough students to conpensate you enough to face a challenge? You don't seem to have a problem blowing off your privates to drive down to a tourny on a friday, why not fight Dave? Because, I think you are just AFRAID to lose. Case closed.

And don't think I'm kidding about that business of slander and libel. I dare you to write some more made up sh1t. I'll have my attorney in contact with you as fast as you can back out of a challenge with Dave or Knivefighter. Well, maybe not that fast, but within 24 hrs. I don't play, my lawyer Fu is easily better than yours. LOL

You make up stories about your skills, accomplishments and knowledge base. Your not a terrible martial artist. Why not just work with that? Teach people what you know, not what you pretend to know,....you should try that for a change.

CTS taught you all these styles? C'mon. If you know three Choy Lay Fut forms, I'd be suprised. All the forms you teach, except for the ones you made up, you learned from ME, not CTS. I have the video of MYSELF learning them from CTS. You did NOT learn them from him. Siu Sahp Jih, Lien Waan, and Chaat Sing Kuyhn. These are my forms, not yours.

And because one of my students learned some rope dart on his own (Frank Hatsis) what does that mean? I'm actually very proud of him. I got him a vcd and showd him some basic moves and he ran with it. We worked on his form and he won first place. I think that is awesome. By the way, he started training with me at 14 years old in Mineola for a couple of years and then came back a couple of years ago. He's a good kid and don't you dare drag him into your pit of dispair.

Oh, yeah, you said that the 5 tigers tourney was full contact? Hardly. It's was continuous contact. And if you're trying to compare my students to your, like that even matters, my adult male students all beat your guys in forms. ALL OF THEM. You had one girl who placed ahead of my 13 years girl. WOW. But not that I even care. But don't tell everyone how great your students did, when they didn't. I was there, remember.

And for the record everyone, his students seem like they train hard and love KF. They seem like nice respectable people. This is not about them and I am not saying anything bad about them. This is about Gus Kaparos who is spreading false rumors and make false claims about what he has learned or has ranking in. It's also about him calling out Dave Ross, issuing a challenge, D. Ross accepting, and Gus Kaparos BACKPEDDLING OUT. Nothing More, Nothing Less.

And yes, Gus used to claim that he learned some White Ape style and Tai Chi from some anyonomous guy in a park in NYC. This was a joke and never proven to be true. Then he told me he learned all his monkey style from a guy named Chris Bruce. I had lunch one day with Chris Bruce and Gus in an IHOP and when I asked Chris Bruce where he learned the monkey kf that he taught GUS, he said, and I quote; "Sometimes, the best teacher is self." He then admitted that he picked up some stuff from movies. He said to my face, that he never had ANY formal martial arts training. Gus was devastated and whanever I brought it up again, he'd get all bent out of shape. Actually, he was kindof in denial about it for a long time afterwards.

AND THAT PEOPLE, IS THE STORY ABOUT HOW GUS LEARNED THE MONKEY STYLE. CTS TAUGHT HIM 1 1/2 OTHER MONKEY FORMS, WHICH I LEARNED AS WELL. CTS MADE THEM SIMPLE BECAUSE HE SAID THAT GUS COULDN'T DO ANYTHING ADVANCED AND HE COULDN'T REMEMBER ANYTHING. SO THE FORMS WERE SOME WUSHU MONKEY WITH SOME TRADITIONAL THINGS MIXED IN. I BET GUS DOESN"T EVEN KNOW THAT. >>>>>>>>>>>> I CAN' POST VIDEOs OF GUS LEARNING, OR SHOULD I SAY 'STRUGGLING' THROUGH THEM IF HE'D LIKE, BUT I'M GUESSING ...NOT.

The monkey forms he puts up on his website are not from CTS. I'm no saying that they are good or bad. But I am saying that these were the Chris Bruce monkey forms and were not CTS's.

This guy just makes up stuff and tried to bamboozal everyone. It's very very sad.

[Lohankuen1]

I nominate this thread, and maybe the fraud thread, as pwnage thread of the year for 2006.

[lkfmdc]

I nominate this thread, and maybe the fraud thread, as pwnage thread of the year for 2006.

oh, the fraud thread is gonna surpass this one real soon

[Green Cloud]

oh, the fraud thread is gonna surpass this one real soon

Dave how easy you play into mike parella's game he started the Same sh!t with you when it came to the Negron fight. He wanted to see your head handed on a platter. I'ts called divide and qonquer can't you see that. Sur side with someone who has never supported any of your events.

And i thought you were smarter than that. Youre such a fool it's sad.

[lkfmdc]

Your antics on the other thread showed the entire world who the fool is, not to mention how much of a low life you are.... the one rule ANYONE should follow no matter what the circumstances are is that wives, children and family members are 600% off limits.... you want to talk crap to me, fine. If I come and stomp on your hip replacements and curb your jaw, fine. I dont' talk about your family, I don't talk about your personal life. The fact you posted the crap you did really means we shouldn't be talking about fights, we should be talking about "hits"... people have been off'ed for the crap you just pulled... if you're lucky, Gene will just delete it... but you showed how desperate and pathetiic you are